How to get away with manslaughter...

[RhynoCZ]

... just be English, beat up a Czech to death, say you are sorry.

I've just heard this on the radio, and find it very fecked up. I don't know what the British law says, what it defines as manslaughter, but this sure makes me question the whole thing. So, we have the perpetrator, we have several eye witnesses, we have CCTV evidence, and the court of the law says alright mate, you're good to go?!

I am familiar with the process, once found not guilty means no one, not even the Queen, can do anything about it. So, the only chance would be the European court for human rights, but I am skeptical.

[Jewlio Rides Again LLB]

No it doesn't.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4406129.stm

HTH
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[sensi5446]

[Jewlio Rides Again LLB]

Self defence and 'reasonable force' should be considered.
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[Rogerborg]

The almost word-for-word identical story told by every legacy media outfit, from far left to right, must be the truth, the whole, truth, and nothing but the truth.

The jury could not possibly have been in possession of any other facts beyond those, and must therefore all have been Brexit Hate Nazi Britain First Nazi National Party Nazis.

I can't think of any other explanation that makes sense.
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A very strange one, if the portrayal is accurate and complete.
I suspect there's a bit more to this story than has been revealed.

Such as the victim being more of an aggressor than an innocent bystander.
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[Kawasaki Jimbo]

[Jewlio Rides Again LLB]

So there's a bit of blaming the victim because he's had a drink, whilst also suggesting that only one (fatal) blow with a weapon is reasonable force

Very surprised the guy isn't in jail at all.
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[ScaredyCat]

[M.C]

[ScaredyCat]

[M.C]

There's no mention of a racial element to the incident, it's pure butthurt speculation and therefore poor/biased journalism.

[ScaredyCat]

[Lord Percy]

Sounds a bit fishy to me but there's surely more to it.

The wording of that Guardian article is disgusting anyway. No better than the hysterical output of the Sun or Daily Mail.

"Scumbag lower class painter and decorator prole brutally murders unarmed middle class suit-wearing hero."

Fuck the Guardian and their liberal elitist bias.

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

I'm not defending Sculley, he killed and I can't account for how on earth he went free based upon what I'm reading here. I'd like to know though, wouldn't you? He went free yet the article only deals with the case for the prosecution, not the defence. What swayed the jury, or cast doubt?

I'd also just like less spin and subliminal messaging in the news. The intentional take home message seems to be,
"Young Czech professional (something to do with architecture) makes inoffensive comment and is pursued and killed by paint-spattered decorator and his gang who had been smoking cannabis."

It could have been,
"Catering manager Makar, on his way home after a drinking session, insults a teenager in a shop and then rows with the youth's older friend Sculley, a decorator by profession. After the spat they all depart in the same direction but Makar, thinking they're following him, removes his jacket and challenges the decorator again. Makar receives a blow behind the ear from a heavy, improvised weapon. The location of the blow (said to be equivalent to a firm punch), combined with the effects of alcohol is enough to kill him."

Death by misadventure, perhaps? Doesnt sound right. However, I'm commenting on the way the news is delivered by The Press and other media.

[M.C]

[ScaredyCat]

[M.C]

It's there in black and white. You talk about bias and want to completely ignore what's in front of your eyes

[ScaredyCat]

You see a brexit article, I see an article about one man killing another and not going to prison.
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[M.C]

Re-read my first post...

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

Hold on, who mentioned Brexit? Oh, The Guardian article did, in the sub-heading and the first line.

[ScaredyCat]

[M.C]

Again re-read my first post. There was a spike in 'hate crime' after the referendum which AFAIK has tailed off. Yet it's a narrative which's still going on.

[RhynoCZ]

I had a lot to do, so I couldn't keep up with the topic.

Well, first of all, I am glad Roger finds this amusing.

Secondly, I do agree that British News using the Brexit to promote their Newspaper/web sites is wrong. Czech news never tried to even imply any Brexit connection with the event. I know we/you have freedom of speech, but this has nothing to do with it. I can only imagine what would happen if it was a Polish citizen who was ''allegedly'' killed by an English lad. We all know how you like Poles.
Even if it was a hate crime, a result of the Brexit if you will, it would still be wrong for the media to take an advantage of it to promote their Newspaper/web site. Any incitement to hatred coming from the mass media is wrong.

I do not read The Guardian, it was just the first English News site I found. BBC had nothing about it, at the time being at least.
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Also, I obviously have no idea, what the right terminology in this case is. It was not a murder, as that would require a certain degree of planing and/or intention to kill. I had no better word for what ''allegedly'' happened.

And this: +1

[Pete.]

Murder requires a pre-meditated intent. If his intention wasn't to kill the guy then it was manslaughter.

What's it got to do with Poles - or even the fact that he was Czech? Two drunk guys had a big row and one got killed by the other because his level of normal human restraint was inhibited by the alcohol. No intent, no murder - and no racial element (except the ones you and the guardian have slipped in there).
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