Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


Short term insurance gaming

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

Sun Wukong
World Chat Champion



Joined: 02 Nov 2014
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:49 - 27 Apr 2017    Post subject: Short term insurance gaming Reply with quote

What you would do if you only wanted to insure a bike until October 2017 (less than 6 months).

- Find a month by month insurer (examples?)

- Get a standard quote, pay in full, cancel the insurance and take the admin charge and reduced discount (so basically pay a full year for 5 months).

- Get a standard quote, pay by month, cancel the direct debit and insurance. See what happens.

- Option 4 (please elaborate).

Possibly a multibike multirider policy?
____________________
Top cat
"Hard times lead to hard people. Hard people lead to good times. Good times lead to weak people. Weak people lead to hard times." Smegballs
"Oh and STE balloons would be one of the nicer things we would receive at the office, the amount of dog turd in jiffy bags is not funny." Jsmith86
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

M.C
Super Spammer



Joined: 29 Sep 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:55 - 27 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check terms, work out how much you'll get back for cancelling within 6 months. Not entirely sure what all the bawwing's about, insurance's going to be a couple of hundred quid for most people, beats public transport for 5 months.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Ben90
Brolly Dolly



Joined: 06 Feb 2014
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:01 - 27 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy a year's cover, pay it in one and cancel it when you're finished. Treat anything you get back as a bonus.

Option three will get your back doors smashed in. The monthly payment goes to the finance company who paid off your policy in a oner because you (foolishly) didn't. It's not a Netflix subscription. Best case scenario I can imagine upon trying to 'cancel' it is they'll graciously offer to let you pay off the balance including the exhorbitant interest that you agreed to.
____________________
Yamaha FZ6 S2
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Sun Wukong
World Chat Champion



Joined: 02 Nov 2014
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:11 - 27 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I shall baww, because it is a stupid system.

And it seems insane to have no way to buy shorter insurance terms.

It is cheap, relative to what they could be fucking me for.

Not cheap relative to my age, history and the learner friendly tractor I'm insuring. (No NCB as returned from overseas)

Having to pay a full year for 5 months adds a bit of salt to the wound.
____________________
Top cat
"Hard times lead to hard people. Hard people lead to good times. Good times lead to weak people. Weak people lead to hard times." Smegballs
"Oh and STE balloons would be one of the nicer things we would receive at the office, the amount of dog turd in jiffy bags is not funny." Jsmith86
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Alpineandy
World Chat Champion



Joined: 18 Mar 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:14 - 27 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=319576
____________________
The above comment isn't necessarily the truth and anyone that says it is, is only correct if it's the truth or they're bigger than me.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Sun Wukong
World Chat Champion



Joined: 02 Nov 2014
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:23 - 27 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpineandy wrote:
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=319576


Aye, saw that (after posting my own Doh!)

But that is barely one month, I'm talking the lumpy end of 6 months (5.5, to be precise).

So, does anyone know a better way to insure for HALF a year?
____________________
Top cat
"Hard times lead to hard people. Hard people lead to good times. Good times lead to weak people. Weak people lead to hard times." Smegballs
"Oh and STE balloons would be one of the nicer things we would receive at the office, the amount of dog turd in jiffy bags is not funny." Jsmith86
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Alpineandy
World Chat Champion



Joined: 18 Mar 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:45 - 27 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sun Wukong wrote:
Alpineandy wrote:
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=319576


Aye, saw that (after posting my own Doh!)

But that is barely one month, I'm talking the lumpy end of 6 months (5.5, to be precise).

So, does anyone know a better way to insure for HALF a year?

I don't think there is a better option.
Just make sure you get details of the cancellation terms.
____________________
The above comment isn't necessarily the truth and anyone that says it is, is only correct if it's the truth or they're bigger than me.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Sun Wukong
World Chat Champion



Joined: 02 Nov 2014
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:15 - 28 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

160 quid with breakdown cover and and 90 days in EU (which I can do at the end, so sort of 9 months).

Ho hum, it's a weird industry.
____________________
Top cat
"Hard times lead to hard people. Hard people lead to good times. Good times lead to weak people. Weak people lead to hard times." Smegballs
"Oh and STE balloons would be one of the nicer things we would receive at the office, the amount of dog turd in jiffy bags is not funny." Jsmith86
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

whockin
L Plate Warrior



Joined: 08 Mar 2017
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:10 - 28 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a similar dilemma with my car last year. Unfortunately, as previously said there is no workaround.

You pay your year, cancel it when you can, and anything you recoup is a bonus you gratefully accept in outstretched hands.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

arry
Super Spammer



Joined: 03 Jan 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:23 - 28 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sun Wukong wrote:

So, does anyone know a better way to insure for HALF a year?


In reality there isn't one that's guaranteed, however:
There are certain motor underwriters that operate cancellation on a pro-rata basis subject to a cancellation charge (documentation free) that are reasonable - but there's no way of knowing whether they would insure you personally on your vehicle as I don't know that detail or their underwriting criteria. What I do know is that I got a quote for a company with a pro-rata cancellation stance recently and they are available via comparison websites.
There is a slim to middling possibility that a company that insures you on your current bike that tends to have an underwriting strategy of bog standard middle range type machines MAY decide to give you a pro-rata refund if you were to call them up mid-term and inform them that you have bought a modified custom cruiser bobber streetfighter super-turbocharged 3 wheeler and they're unfortunately unable to continue your cover, through no fault of your own, as they're unable to accept the new vehicle. It tends to be at their discretion and their discretion is usually based on how convincing and engaging you can be.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Alpineandy
World Chat Champion



Joined: 18 Mar 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:41 - 28 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sun Wukong wrote:
Ho hum, it's a weird industry.

It is, but legally they earn their money on Day 1 as you can just as easily have a major accident (with £10m claims for all 10 cars involved and their passengers) on that day, as you can on day 365 of the policy.
There are legal precedents but they appreciate that it would just cause problems selling policies which aren't cancellable and very few people would buy one whilst any other company offers a partial refund.
I've seen much stricter cancellation terms on major industrial risks and zero cancellation terms on certain businesses which are seasonal (no you can't have a 10 month pro-rata refund on your sugar cane pressing mill now the season is over, when 95% of the hazard is during the pressing season)
So you just have to do your research for the best deal for you...
____________________
The above comment isn't necessarily the truth and anyone that says it is, is only correct if it's the truth or they're bigger than me.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

M.C
Super Spammer



Joined: 29 Sep 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:23 - 28 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sun Wukong wrote:
160 quid with breakdown cover and and 90 days in EU (which I can do at the end, so sort of 9 months).

Ho hum, it's a weird industry.

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder28/500x/20024028.jpg
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

ScottT
Scooby Slapper



Joined: 17 Sep 2014
Karma :

PostPosted: 08:42 - 29 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is another option, buy some tracksuit bottoms and a hoody, throw your helmet away and take off your number plate and just thrash the bike everywhere.
Everyone will just think you have stolen it and no one will bother you and the police wont even try to pull you. You'll probably qualify for free petrol at some stations, added bonus..
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Rogerborg
nimbA



Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 09:20 - 29 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clone the plate from an unmarked police bike, you say?
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Freddyfruitba...
World Chat Champion



Joined: 20 May 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:35 - 29 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:

There is a slim to middling possibility that a company that insures you on your current bike that tends to have an underwriting strategy of bog standard middle range type machines MAY decide to give you a pro-rata refund if you were to call them up mid-term and inform them that you have bought a modified custom cruiser bobber streetfighter super-turbocharged 3 wheeler and they're unfortunately unable to continue your cover

I like your thinking: however wouldn't that mean that in future you'd have to answer "Yes" to the dreaded catch-all question "Have you ever had insurance declined" or whatever, with the possible implications that has?
____________________
KC100->CB100N->CB250RS--------->DL650AL2->R1200RS->R1250RS
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

arry
Super Spammer



Joined: 03 Jan 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:41 - 29 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freddyfruitbat wrote:

I like your thinking: however wouldn't that mean that in future you'd have to answer "Yes" to the dreaded catch-all question "Have you ever had insurance declined" or whatever, with the possible implications that has?


No; YOU haven't had anything declined, they've just declined to cover the bike.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

iooi
Super Spammer



Joined: 14 Jan 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 08:57 - 30 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sun Wukong wrote:
160 quid with breakdown cover and and 90 days in EU (which I can do at the end, so sort of 9 months).

Ho hum, it's a weird industry.



One thing to note is that while you may get a % refund on the ins side. I have yet to find one that gives any sort of refund on breakdown cover.
____________________
Just because my bike was A DIVVY, does not mean i am......
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 6 years, 353 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Page 1 of 1

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.08 Sec - Server Load: 0.37 - MySQL Queries: 17 - Page Size: 98.64 Kb