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Do they both squish 5 quarter turns worth of air into one circle? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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nowhere.elysium wrote: |
That's the shock reservoir, you spud. The exhaust is under the engine. |
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I'll be astonished if it ever makes it to production.
A turbo-nutter bike sold at a huge premium, you can see the profit.
A complicated 600 that makes litre-bike performance for litre-bike (or more) cost, not so much. How many people in the market for litre-bikes care about fuel economy? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Rogerborg wrote: |
A turbo-nutter bike sold at a huge premium, you can see the profit.
A complicated 600 that makes litre-bike performance for litre-bike (or more) cost, not so much. How many people in the market for litre-bikes care about fuel economy? |
It has almost been done before. The Kawasaki GPz750 Turbo cost new about the same as the GPz1100 of the time, and compared well with the competition's prices for litre bikes. Performance figures were within a whisker of each other. Both were 'high' performance bikes, though not really in the nutter class. The Turbo also gave pretty good fuel economy at legal speeds (I measured about 50mpg on one long motorway trip of speeds up to about 80mph) although I've no idea how it compared to the 1100 in that regard.
Actually, the Kawasaki made quite a bit of sense as a turbocharged bike. I guess it was really a sports bike in its day, but it was comfortable, with good weather protection from the fairing, and made a good tourer. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Wow, somebody's missus must have had a whopper of a headache last night. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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I think it's a sign of affection when Stevo goes mental at you |
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Nothing world ending wrong with downsized engines in cars, but just don't fall for the trap of thinking they make a car better or nicer to drive or are as economical as the claims when driven to get the same performance as the bigger engined car you replaced it with.
There's some issues with reliability in general as turbo, direct injection petrols are getting almost as complex or fussy about maintenance as current diesels. Some don't want this level of complexity in a petrol as they might as well go derv otherwise. Theres a lesser argument over long term durability too. Highly boosted petrol engines like lots of regular servicing and drivers that don't switch off immediately after a flat out blast.
Lastly there's two types of car owners/drivers.
Enthusiasts, and then everybody else. The everybody else's who a large majority of are non bonnet lifters, and lifestyle choices people, will like these little downsized engines, the low tax, and the potential for good economy. The torque surfers brought up on TDI's will like the similar power delivery and the short rev range with easy lazy driving manners.
Don't expect a track day enthusiast or car modding junkie to love these little downsized car powertrains. If I was going to spend 10k on building a modified track friendly Fiesta, then I'd much rather start with the 1.6 or 1.8 etc and convert to forced induction than use an over blown 1.0, with a cylinder missing, a crap soundtrack and no headroom for more go. Add to that alot of real serious track drivers don't like forced induction, not turbo style anyway. |
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stevo as b4 wrote: | Car stuff. Again. |
Don't you belong to any car forums where you can get this stuff off your chest? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Can you do me a special version of bcf where we are all banned, flogged, and subjected to 5years hard labour if we talk about, like or ride bikes under 10years old.
I admire you embrace the modern technology and rider aids era, and the whole you've never had it so good or controllable viewpoint etc.
But I want to live in the world of blue haze, the unridables, and Baba San making the first clean sheet superbike etc. We had slipper clutches and EFI working well enough by the early noughties. I don't need to know about bikes more modern than this, as I don't understand them, the need for them or what makes clean, stacked with electronics, and emissions friendly bikes so much better.
The bloke in the shed nailing on a set of K8 GSXR forks to his GS or GT750 is all I need to read about to feel happy and content. |
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stevo as b4 wrote: | Can you do me a special version of bcf where we are all banned, flogged, and subjected to 5years hard labour if we talk about, like or ride bikes under 10years old. |
https://www.vjmc.com
HTH
Just quit with the car stuff in biking threads will ya?! ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 354 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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