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Technically illegal to push it on public footpath unless accessing property.
However they would have to have a personal vendetta against you to actually stop you for it, unless you look like a pikey with a nicked crosser.
EDIT: I'm an ill-informed idiot ____________________ DRZ400-SM
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Oh, herro.
DRZ4Hunned wrote: | Technically illegal to push it on public footpath unless accessing property. |
And what offence are you committing? Can you find one that doesn't feature the words "driving" or "riding"?
Get off it. Selby (Justin) v Director of Public Prosecutions: QBD 1994 held that "riding is being carried out if a person is being carried on a motor cycle as it moves on its wheels, whether propelled by the engine, by his feet or by gravity."
Pushing a bike on a pavement, footway or footpath is absolutely fine, whether it forms part of a road or otherwise.
I regularly push bikes along the pavement against the direction of a one-way road and then across the carriageway to bypass a no-entry sign, and have done so with Dibble passing with no worries at all. You do not have to wear a helmet when doing so, which forms another clear distinction between "propelling it on foot" and riding/driving. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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If you're on foot, you're a pedestrian. If you're on the bike, you're a motorist. Do fully get off and push though.
The bike needs to be road legal in either case because the footway is still part of the "Highway".
I too have got off and pushed the bike through bus-only cut-throughs, no left turns, bollards etc. Occasionally even traffic lights I know take ages to cycle through. It's one place a step-through really comes into its own. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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SORN satisfies the continuous insurance requirements, and is irrelevant to using it on a road. VED isn't required on the way to or from a pre-booked MOT.
The issue is insurance, and you'd have rely on arguing that you're not using it as a "motor" vehicle. stinkwheel's magistrate / sheriff chum suggested that (belatedly) as a defence to continuous insurance for a bike that was in bits.
Covering plates is flat out an offence, no exceptions, anywhere, anywhen. Note "vehicle", not "motor vehicle"; and no reference to use or location - it's technically an offence not display one even when it's locked up on private property. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Somewhere in the middle of all that is a 12-pack of Krispy Kremes |
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angryjonny wrote: |
Somewhere in the middle of all that is a 12-pack of Krispy Kremes |
...and a soggy biscuit, judging by where their hands are. ____________________
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I can't see why. The UK only requires a licence to "drive on a road", and pushing is not driving.
Aside, "road", but not a public place, so technically you can drive around in a car park without a licence. However, insurance is required to "use a motor vehicle on a road or other public place". Bit of consistency would be nice. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Just thinking out loud... But would pushing be classed as "using a motor vehicle" in the case of your insurance example...?
Can you get insurance without a license?
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Hawkeye1250FA wrote: |
Just thinking out loud... But would pushing be classed as "using a motor vehicle" in the case of your insurance example...?
Can you get insurance without a license?
Ipso-facto... Would you indeed require a license to push it in a public place? |
You can get insured as a learner, so you could in theory if you had permission and insurance do Mod 1 practice in Tesco car park. I've pondered the same question, as I ride up an 'emergency access road', I've often wondered if I were to get stopped what the situation would be. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 349 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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