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Fowlersrs
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 04 May 2017    Post subject: Opinion on this VFR 750 Reply with quote

Want your opinions on this one folks, going to look at it tomorow out of curiosity and because im told theyre a good bike..

Look at this on eBay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322498989575

Looks pretty tidy for the age, worth a punt at 1500 ponds?
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 04 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chain is slack, Subframe is twisted!
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 04 May 2017    Post subject: Re: Opinion on this VFR 750 Reply with quote

Fowlersrs wrote:
Want your opinions on this one folks, going to look at it tomorow out of curiosity and because im told theyre a good bike..

Look at this on eBay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322498989575

Looks pretty tidy for the age, worth a punt at 1500 ponds?


It's supposed to be the best vfr and I quite fancied one. However I'm lead to believe they don't age as well as you might think. Rotting pipes, knackered chassis bearings and reg rec failure. For the money it does warrant a look.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 04 May 2017    Post subject: Re: Opinion on this VFR 750 Reply with quote

GT200Fan79 wrote:
Fowlersrs wrote:
Want your opinions on this one folks, going to look at it tomorow out of curiosity and because im told theyre a good bike..

Look at this on eBay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322498989575

Looks pretty tidy for the age, worth a punt at 1500 ponds?


It's supposed to be the best vfr and I quite fancied one. However I'm lead to believe they don't age as well as you might think. Rotting pipes, knackered chassis bearings and reg rec failure. For the money it does warrant a look.


I know this one has had stainless headers fitted. If its as tidy as the photos make it look id argue they age pretty well. Just depends how hard a life its had. 50k miles isn50k miles though, although im led to believe you can get double that from these?
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 04 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stainless headers are a massive plus, for the age and mileage it's wishful thinking that where will be service history but safe to say the valve clearances should be fine having run to that mileage.

Struggling to work eBay on this phone but if no mention of it check the age and condition of the chain, rusty and neglected could suggest a seized concentric tensioner, also regulator rectifiers as with most Honda of the vintage are prone to failure.

I know this 'up norf' but a few hundred £ less with 5k less miles and the best colour Thumbs Up
https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-VFR750FR-/112386965447?hash=item1a2ac8ffc7%3Ag%3AyZQAAOSwtZJZAO3s&_trkparms=pageci%253A2c0247a7-30ff-11e7-983e-74dbd180ced2%257Cparentrq%253Ad4eaeaf715b0a357f39f757ffffe7417%257Ciid%253A1

I'd be willing to pop up and take a look at if you want Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 04 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

These regularly turn up at less money and lower mileages on the Facebook groups I'm a member of. For the money vs mileage I'd steer clear.
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 04 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over winter I was tempted by a few that looked not bad for a good bit under a grand. Might pick one up next winter if the same happens.

I also hate adverts where the seller has put bugger all effort into putting any information on it.
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 04 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't pay that much for (that) one.
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PostPosted: 05:14 - 05 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

See location... if the place name "Watchet" in the add doesn't give pause to consider the warning? Lol!

Price seem high. Mileage wouldn't concern me too much TBH, suggest's it's seen more regular use; 51K in 20 years is 2.5K a year, a little on the low side of average for a leisure bike; But could have cranked up a lot in early years as a continent crosser, and sat laid up in later life, as sunny day toy, and I believe they don't like being left stood too well; carbs tend to gum up and they are a PITA to get at, buried in the V; chin eccentrics can seize and there's a lot of out-of site and out of mind mechanics under the plastics to be neglected.

Model probably is the best of the series; They have been pimping themselves under my nose for the last 20 years, and always presented themselves as 'oh-so-sensible' a choice.... but not getting any younger.... or simpler, and they are one of THE most convoluted over complicated, least spanner friendly motorcycles ever built; and not one I would want to be left carrying the bag for when age and mileage start to catch up and counter that legendary reliability....

Here and now; whilst still the oh-so-sensible option of all-round do it all motorcycle, and with so much else on offer, personally it's one that even at more sensible money, maybe 2/3 that ask, I have to really ask whether it's worth it.

As a sport's tourer, it probably is one of the finest, most refined and all-round friendly all-round do-it-all motorcycles ever made... BUT... jack-of-all-trades, master of none... with CBR11 Black-Birds falling down into that same sort of price-range these days; offering, slightly less convoluted, if not hugely less daunting spannering if/when needed, and "Yes but I was still the worlds fastest production motorcycle" to counter the Norman-Major like mundanity; with ZX6R's offering the full quota of full on pure sports lack of compromise, fetching perhaps half that; or an older Pan, again the no holds barred full on tourer for likewise less money, and potentially offering two-bikes for the price of one, and no compromise in either to fullfill either role; then stuff like the RF900, or the XJR1300 and and and.. just SO MUCH all living in a similar world and price range; forget the Honda badge and the legendary VFR 'reputation', and as 'just' another 'old bike' the VFR just doesn't stand to one side, smugly like it used to.... and certainly not enough, to my mind to command top dollar prices.

Advert isn't inspiring.. he says more about how he wont take swaps or PX's, doesn't have a BIN price, and doesn't really want to consider offers or haggling... tells me more about the seller, than the bike, and none of it endearing...

No mention in the add about stainless headers.... yup... I wouldn't bother looking at one that didn't have them... but I wouldn't expect to have to start asking to find that out!!! Or interviewing the bloke to drag any more intelligence on the damn thing from him, like asking if there were old MOTs to show major gaps in use and support the mileage claim.

So, it's over-priced, and the seller isn't isn't too keen to 'sell', just get the money... that doesn't bode well as a starting place to me, and personally; even IF I had resigned myself to a VFR, and a VFR in that price range, it would just NOT make it high up the look at list... and with so many other VFR's, let alone other possible candidates to choose from in that price bracket, I wouldn't be in ANY hurry, to join the queue of "Oh look! SUN! Must buy a bike, season starters, rushing to buy 'something' before the summer-rains set in!

Is it worth a punt at £1500?

"No" is my first instinct. It's not on my doorstep, so it would be a 1/2 day out to go look at the thing and see if it was actually worth it; and if it was a reasonable contender, there would have to be something pretty 'special' and give me warm fuzzies to get UP to that mark.. and from hintimation and more warnings about bargaining in the ad than details of the bike, I don't think the seller would take it; not this time of year, he'd hold out for his optimistic ask. So, a lot of hard work to get to, assess condition and value, and then more to find a sensible price on, with little to suggest that the effort would result in a good deal, and almost none it would be a bargain; for a bike, there are many many like on offer, in a price range where that model, let alone that example, really doesn't stand so far above the crowd to be the 'must have', and certainly not at or close to optimistic sellers ask.....

But, it's your money; your time; and it may be on your doorstep... it may be worth it to you.... and in the greater scheme of stuff... what's a couple of hundred quid on the price of a bike like that? It's barely the cost of a pair of tyres, or a C&S kit and set of spark-plugs! (Which would probably take longer to change than it would for me to meander down the M5 to go look at the ruddy thing!)
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PostPosted: 05:43 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the feedback.

Turned my attention to this;

Look at this on eBay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282455653700

Looks tidy for the age but seen as the clock are broken im wondering how he knows its on 54k??
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PostPosted: 06:37 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fowlersrs wrote:
Thanks for the feedback.

Turned my attention to this;

Look at this on eBay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282455653700

Looks tidy for the age but seen as the clock are broken im wondering how he knows its on 54k??


IIRC, it's just the LCD on the right, not the speedo/odo.

Edit:- My bad, Mileage is on the display, not the speedo. Was convinced I'd seen 800's with a mileage on the speedo. I've looked at a fair few recently though, might be mixing it up with 750's.
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked my VFR750 adn it's still going stong as a mate has it now. 70000 miles or so.

They are getting long in the tooth now and it shows compared with a new bike. IMO the engine is still a peach, the rest is not.
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fowlersrs wrote:


I wouldn't get that one, it's been on its side as evidenced in the first picture...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8mbrot21u7dds6b/s-l1600.jpg?raw=1
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I see the part that looks a bit like road rash, above the bung... but isn't that the reflection of the red cars headlights being distorted by a convex curve?
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe how much people are asking for VFR750's.

Similar money gets you a (slightly) newer, lower mileage ZX9R with new tyres, chain and sprockets.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kawasaki-ZX9R-NOT-R1-Honda-fireblade-/252914794247?hash=item3ae2e57f07:g:VRkAAOSww9xZCIOL
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
I can't believe how much people are asking for VFR750's.

Similar money gets you a (slightly) newer, lower mileage ZX9R with new tyres, chain and sprockets.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kawasaki-ZX9R-NOT-R1-Honda-fireblade-/252914794247?hash=item3ae2e57f07:g:VRkAAOSww9xZCIOL


Riding position. I'll be wanting off that ZX9R after an hour. Insurance is half (for me at least) on the VFR.
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThatDippyTwat wrote:

Riding position. I'll be wanting off that ZX9R after an hour.


The position on those 9R's is not remotely extreme. They look more "super" than they are (eye up the peg postion and height of the clip ons). Sure not as comfy as a VFR will be but a fuckton of bike more for the money. Anyway it was less of a suggestion to Fowlersrs than an example of how over priced an old VFR seems (if we stick to sport tourers then you can get a decent ZZR 1100 for the VFR money).
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 07 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
I can't believe how much people are asking for VFR750's.

Similar money gets you a (slightly) newer, lower mileage ZX9R with new tyres, chain and sprockets.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kawasaki-ZX9R-NOT-R1-Honda-fireblade-/252914794247?hash=item3ae2e57f07:g:VRkAAOSww9xZCIOL


£2200 for a C model Shocked

I got my 9r E1 model, with ohlins rear shock and springs for less than that in 2012! Shocked
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