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winchman
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Licence issue. Reply with quote

Sorry this must have been asked to death.
Passed my car test in 1987 ish.
Rode bikes for a few more years but never took my test, hung the helmet up about 1991.
Now I an on old codger and don't have to cart the kids about anymore I suddenly have a collection of Hondas finest creations, A ST70, CF70 and a Hybrid of the two.( oh and a Chinese copy that I just haven't got around to selling)
So what can I ride on the road and how?
To be honest I will only using them for the odd show, if I bought a proper bike I would poo my pants.
Been looking at the Chaly threads but why can't I see the pictures?
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same as a new rider. You'll need a CBT and you can ride a 125 on L plates.
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winchman
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

dydey90 wrote:
Same as a new rider. You'll need a CBT and you can ride a 125 on L plates.

I did wonder that but my licence was issued it was Under 50cc, no L plates, then it was a provisional for other stuff, but CBT wasn't invented, I assumed wrongly perhaps as I had an old farts licence I wouldn't need it?
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

IIRC, you had to have passed your car license before 2000(ish), and that entitlement is only for Mopeds, 49cc and 28mph. Must display L's.
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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you still have the bike category as a provisional entitlement, grandfather rights mean you can still ride anything up to 125 with L plates without having to do CBT.
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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThatDippyTwat wrote:
IIRC, you had to have passed your car license before 2000(ish), and that entitlement is only for Mopeds, 49cc and 28mph. Must display L's.


My car test gave me moped as a full category and indefinite provisional on a bike.

The only reason I ever did a CBT is because it's a pre-requisite for taking your test.
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winchman
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
ThatDippyTwat wrote:
IIRC, you had to have passed your car license before 2000(ish), and that entitlement is only for Mopeds, 49cc and 28mph. Must display L's.


My car test gave me moped as a full category and indefinite provisional on a bike.

The only reason I ever did a CBT is because it's a pre-requisite for taking your test.

Thanks my licence is a paper one and it shows provisions; for motor bikes
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is that with an old-farts license, you can ride a moped without L-plates but with a CBT, which doesn't expire.

Anything bigger, you need a CBT, renewed every two years as per normal, plus L plates. The grandfather rights don't remove your need for a CBT.


Edit - No, you don't need a CBT for a moped with a pre-2000 licenses, but needing one for a bigger bike is correct.

https://www.gov.uk/motorcycle-cbt/car-driving-licence
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inb4 Rog ...and/or Tef (extolling the virtues of time on a little bike, without answering OPs question.) Idea
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you Tritey?
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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

bamt wrote:
My understanding is that with an old-farts license, you can ride a moped without L-plates but with a CBT, which doesn't expire.

Anything bigger, you need a CBT, renewed every two years as per normal, plus L plates. The grandfather rights don't remove your need for a CBT.


Edit - No, you don't need a CBT for a moped with a pre-2000 licenses, but needing one for a bigger bike is correct.

https://www.gov.uk/motorcycle-cbt/car-driving-licence


It says that you need CBT to active it. If it's already active because you had the category as a provisional (after gaining full licence for, example, a vehicle up to 8 tons) it doesn't need activiating. Therefore no need for CBT
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

bamt wrote:
Edit - No, you don't need a CBT for a moped with a pre-2000 licenses, but needing one for a bigger bike is correct.

https://www.gov.uk/motorcycle-cbt/car-driving-licence

Pre-2001 to be pedantic, from 1st Feb' of that year you needed a CBT you validate your moped entitlement.

I believe pretty much everyone needs a CBT to ride a 125, iirc Tef' mentioned there was a short period in the early eighties where you effectively got permanent learner entitlement, but I wasn't alive then so my memory's a little hazy Wink
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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
Fucknut wordspewer mentioned there was a short period in the early eighties where you effectively got permanent learner entitlement, but I wasn't alive then so my memory's a little hazy Wink


I was and it wasn't a short period in the 80s, there wasat least a decade of decades from where the part one licence was introduced and CBT came to pass.

Edit: it appears that grandfather rights were over-ruled in 1997...

https://www.lightningmctraining.co.uk/changes-motorcycle-learner-law
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 06 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poundland Tritey thread.
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