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 Posted: 11:35 - 08 May 2017 Post subject: Untaxed bike likely outcome |
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So, guess who has two thumbs and is a moron?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CO-6C4JWgAEJ3jR.jpg
Just received a letter from DVLA telling me my bike is untaxed. I was surprised as I didn't recall receiving a reminder from them, but now I'm fairly sure I must have had it at some point, then decided to wait until payday to tax in the same month and then got distracted by the sight of my hairy balls peaking through the holes in my underwear or something equally fascinating.
Anyway, long story short - paid the tax the same day, but effectively I've been riding it untaxed since October. Yeah, I know. Surprised I haven't been pulled up by ANPR cameras, even though I don't commute, but still.
So, exactly how screwed am I? The bike is now taxed but there was a message on the DVLA website saying something along the lines of 'our enforcement team may be in touch regarding the gap in coverage'. Am I looking at £80 fine or being hung, drawn and quartered for high treason? |
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I think you'll be beaten in custody untill you admit you were on your way to bomb Buck Palace, then sent to prison to be buggered to death.
That's about it, i can't see it being any more serious.  ____________________ Be a REAL MAN! |
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 Posted: 13:34 - 08 May 2017 Post subject: Re: Untaxed bike likely outcome |
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| lardcore wrote: | Am I looking at £80 fine |
No.
You're looking at receiving a blackmail demand which appears to be £50 rising to £100. Or higher, they can invent any number they like.
If you ignore that, there's a small chance of the DVLA choosing to prosecute you. I've been lucky, but it does happen. If they don't make a complete hash of the case, you're liable to receive a multi-hundred pound fine and a real, live, bona fide criminal record. You monster.
Given that none of that fine will go to the DVLA, they'll cheerfully re-blackmail you at the courtroom door, so you'll have a final chance to bottle it and pay a bribe at that point to avoid the case going ahead.
Don't rely on "Yeah, SORNed it by post and that" and the Interpretations Act 1978 as a defence any more. It appears that the DVLA finally scuppered that in the High Court after years of fishing for a grumpy enough judge.
I would not under any circumstances initiate contact with them (actually a 3rd party collections outfit masquerading as them) or respond to anything short of a court summons. Until that hits the mat, they're just bluffing.
Once you've got a court date, you can start haggling in earnest over the amount of the bribe that you're willing to pay them to escape justice. You monster, again. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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| lardcore wrote: | Would it not make sense to just pay the fine/bribe |
Bribe.
| lardcore wrote: | I mean £50 is quite cheap for not being dragged through courts, no? |
£50 to avoid a small chance of being hauled before the beak.
| lardcore wrote: | Why not just pay the £50, what am I missing? |
That they might forget about it. They get nothing from actually winning cases - they only do a few to terrorise the rest of us into paying up.
However, it's in the ballpark of what you saved by riding dirty, so I wouldn't take too principled a stand on it.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Bought CBR600, kept said bike for 6 months before I 1, got it on the road and 2, sent off the V5 (forgot I said I'd do that...).
When I got round to taxing the bike online there was a notice that came up saying "An offence something something... yadda yadda" so I quickly clicked through, paid for the tax and thought nothing more of it.
For the next 2-3 years I got the same message. Nothing ever seemed to happen. Don't know if the bloke that sold it to me ended up getting shafted as it was still in his name at the time but the message never went away.
Eventually ended up on the track so probably won't be taxed again any time soon and nothing's come through my door about it  |
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| lardcore wrote: | So, guess who has two thumbs and is a moron?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CO-6C4JWgAEJ3jR.jpg
Just received a letter from DVLA telling me my bike is untaxed. I was surprised as I didn't recall receiving a reminder from them, but now I'm fairly sure I must have had it at some point, then decided to wait until payday to tax in the same month and then got distracted by the sight of my hairy balls peaking through the holes in my underwear or something equally fascinating.
Anyway, long story short - paid the tax the same day, but effectively I've been riding it untaxed since October. Yeah, I know. Surprised I haven't been pulled up by ANPR cameras, even though I don't commute, but still.
So, exactly how screwed am I? The bike is now taxed but there was a message on the DVLA website saying something along the lines of 'our enforcement team may be in touch regarding the gap in coverage'. Am I looking at £80 fine or being hung, drawn and quartered for high treason? |
I'm pretty sure "may be in touch" translates to "don't do it again, we're watching you", so wouldn't worry too much. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 8 years, 259 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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