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TheSmiler World Chat Champion
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Posted: 22:31 - 12 May 2017 Post subject: Custom bike what would you chose. |
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This is hypothetical but imagine you could get a custom frame made now this would be built around your choices. Now I'm curious what parts would you choose obviously this all depends what you use it for but go on.
So you have; Engine, forks, Fuel Tank, Wheels.
This is your chance to mix and match any parts can go together. ____________________ CB125>CG125>GN125>ER5>K100RS>R1100RS>K100RS
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Rogerborg nimbA
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Posted: 22:55 - 12 May 2017 Post subject: |
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I'd question the merits of a custom bike in $CURRENT_YEAR. It's not like when Tef were a mere lad of 50 and frames were apparently made of Meccano and Slinkies.
I've never had a bike where I noticed the frame putting any limitation on my riding, so I guess my answer is that I wouldn't, I'd buy stock.
Oh, my Lifan cruiser's geometry was poor, so I'd avoid that. But everything else I've had has gone where I've pointed it without drama. I can't really see the merit in trying (and almost certainly failing) to do better.
</Boring Old Bloke> ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Posted: 23:32 - 12 May 2017 Post subject: |
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Vigaro 535, I wouldn't have to do any building and I would have a usable bike ____________________ I am the sum total of my own existence, what went before makes me who I am now!
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Posted: 00:18 - 13 May 2017 Post subject: |
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Rogerborg wrote: | I'd question the merits of a custom bike in $CURRENT_YEAR. It's not like when Tef were a mere lad of 50 and frames were apparently made of Meccano and Slinkies.
I've never had a bike where I noticed the frame putting any limitation on my riding, so I guess my answer is that I wouldn't, I'd buy stock.
Oh, my Lifan cruiser's geometry was poor, so I'd avoid that. But everything else I've had has gone where I've pointed it without drama. I can't really see the merit in trying (and almost certainly failing) to do better.
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What he said. These days, it's more about wanting to iron out comparatively minor niggles on what's in the showrooms. Since Yamaha introduced its beam frame on the FZR1000 Genesis back in '87 (developed from its GP bikes), frames haven't really been a problem on road bikes. The days of "handles like it has a hinge in the middle" are well and truly in the past, thankfully. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Hmm, I guess I am curious about a Grom with a 180cc engine and decent tyres.
£3300 plus the rest though, that's a noooope. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Posted: 11:59 - 13 May 2017 Post subject: |
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Lego bike? OK, first up, engine. Single cylinder for the look and sound. My favourite eye candy is the simple lines of the Suzuki Savage; the way the exhaust slots in along the case pleases me. Forks? Not fussy, the simpler and cleaner the lines the better. Tank needs to be a decent size, none of this "peanut" style - the shape of the Enfield Bullet is ideal for me, it's proper. Wheels need to be either traditional spoke, or simple alloy (no swoops).
A close approximation would be the Tempter 400 :-
https://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/suzuki-history/1997/1997_Tempter_490.jpg
pepperami wrote: | Vigaro 535, I wouldn't have to any building and I would have a usable bike |
Give it a decent tank size, raise the seat slightly so that your feet aren't as forward and more underneath you for taking weight when you need to, and I'll buy it
Saying that, my current Bullet pleases me - I'd like a Savage engine in it and shaft drive, please
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Posted: 12:08 - 13 May 2017 Post subject: |
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Shineray XY400?
https://i.imgur.com/adGaKdP.jpg
Aka Mash 400 / Jawa 350. Available brand new today.
I've never sampled the shaft, but now that you mention it, I'd prefer to belt up. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Not tempted.
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Rogerborg wrote: |
Shineray XY400?
https://i.imgur.com/adGaKdP.jpg
Aka Mash 400 / Jawa 350. Available brand new today.
I've never sampled the shaft, but now that you mention it, I'd prefer to belt up. |
I was parked next to a Mash 400 at a bike meet Wednesday night - build quality doesn't look that bad and it ticks a lot of my boxes, although at £3890 OTR I would prefer it to mature a bit more before I part with cash - I could get another Electra and have a spending spree at Hitchcocks for that kind of money. ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
Currently : Royal Enfield 350 Meteor
Previously : CB100N > CB250RS > XJ900F > GT550 > GPZ750R/1000RX > AJS M16 > R100RT > Bullet 500 > CB500 > LS650P > Bullet Electra X & YBR125 > Bullet 350 "Superstar" & YBR125 Custom > Royal Enfield Classic 500 Despatch Limited Edition (28 of 200) & CB Two-Fifty Nighthawk > ER5 |
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Posted: 17:53 - 13 May 2017 Post subject: Re: Custom bike what would you chose. |
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If we're talking a 'custom frame', it'd have to be something that doesn't already exist.
The only thing I can really think of is a half-decent frame to take a cub style engine.
Always liked the idea of this - get really good range of cheap engines with some good economy options. Gives an adaptable bike that 'grow' with people.
No use at all for one, however .
(Or maybe a lightweight off-road adventure setup to take a multi cylinder engine no heavier than the SV650 - though a while ago someone did offer a similar things for the GPz500 engine.) |
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Posted: 18:34 - 13 May 2017 Post subject: |
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I think as it's hard to build something truly better than multi million dollar companies, all my specials in my head are just bikes to be different, stand out or provoke a reaction, as I get more interest from that than riding maybe?
1, I've long said on BCF that if I were to build or have built my vision of a hard tail performance chopper, it would either have a large IL4 sports touring engine that's way overpowering for the bike. Think ZZR1400 engine in a bike with no rear suspension etc. Or else I'd like to see a chopper with a big multi cylinder 2stroke engine. Say a GT750 kettle bored out to 850cc for example. Not about making a bike that's better or more useable or sensible for me, but just a two fingers sign to all 45degree V-twin lumps of iron shit.
2, I've also long mentioned Yamaha combining a WR450F style chassis or one that's a bit more road friendly with an R6 engine massively downgeared G- style. Im kind of thinking maybe a dual purpose or motard style bike that's like a 600cc 15000rpm TDR or Nordwest for example. Done right it could make the Aprilia SVX550 seem silly.
3, I've also long fancied trying out a modern 300cc two stroke in a Cagiva Mito for example. 30bhp approx like the 125 but delivered at 6000rpm and with great gobs of low down snap and torque for little or no extra weight.
The same vision I feel for putting a tuned 300cc parallel twin from a Ninja into such a bike like the Mito/RS125. You could get the 300cc Ninja lump back up to its original 45bhp it had as an early 250, but with more midrange and better manners. It would show what the 300cc 14000rpm Kawasaki engine is capable of when shoved into a lighter bike that's an uncompromising full on sports bike, but without the quick seize reputation of the same bikes as 125's.
In final fantasy land, I'd love to see someone develop a chain drive conversion for the Kawasaki Z1300 engine and shed lots of weight from it with magnesium and carbon fibre cases and covers etc. If sanctuary would build me a chain drive Z1300 that's say 50kg lighter than std with about 145bhp, that'd be my ultimate big bike to wank over. |
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It's already in concept mode. It's what happens when the H2R has ugly sex with a Z1000
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Posted: 22:47 - 13 May 2017 Post subject: |
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I was thinking a VF750 Sabre with the running gear from a VFR1200 shoehorned in and suitable suspension/brakes tweaks, then it occurred to me I'd just reinvented the original V-Max, which seems a bit pointless.
Thinking about it a bit more, I would like a supertourer, without the bulk and weight, so maybe something with the basic proportions of a Deauville, with a gruntier motor and a bit of weight shaved off, in other words, the bike Honda should've made, the VFR800 Crosstourer, with shaft drive. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 342 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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