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PostPosted: 22:09 - 23 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:
Killing kids on a concert is sick.

Ste wrote:
1. This has nothing to do with Islam.
2. The guy was a mentally ill 'lone wolf'.
3. Those who object to points 1 and 2 are racists.
4. Change your Facebook profile photo to include the flag of the targeted country.
5. Light some candles, hold a vigil and go on a peace march.
6. Wait for the next snackbar to happen.

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I like your clever list. Have you not forgot something?

If you follow your angry logic we must round up all christians too, because Branch Davidians are christians right?

Can we keep our calm and blame only the people responsible please? Like ISIS for example.


Islamic State? Islam ic State..... Islam. ...... ic State...

Definitely nothing to do with Islam in Retard World eh?
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 23 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewlio Rides Again wrote:
How many of the doctors, nurses, taxi drivers, anyone else who chipped in last night, were Muslim?

Curious as to whether or not they all didn't help, you know, cos Muslamics.


The bomber was a Muslim, as usual when the mass murdering of Infidels is involved. He played a big part in it. HTH

He was probably a minicab driver too.
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 23 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This seems like a statement of the bleedin' obvious, but the point is that as a society we need to tell our representatives to go ahead and choose the lesser of two evils, i.e. the probability of more isolated slaughter of the innocents, Jean Charles de Menezes stylee, rather than the certainty of more mass slaughter of the innocents like this.

That Sadiq Khan got away with saying that snackbar is just "part and parcel of living in a big city" is horrifying. I need a vigil to get over it.


People can keep a stiff upper lip and get on with their lives instead of being whipped up with their two minutes of hate or do we have armed guards on the highstreet asking papiere, bitte.

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Diversity Alert at Critical - snackbar imminent.

Well, we had a good run. See you in hell, you glorious arseholes.


Do they turn the threatometer up to 11 when there's a proper attack?
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 23 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jmoan wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:

This seems like a statement of the bleedin' obvious, but the point is that as a society we need to tell our representatives to go ahead and choose the lesser of two evils, i.e. the probability of more isolated slaughter of the innocents, Jean Charles de Menezes stylee, rather than the certainty of more mass slaughter of the innocents like this.

That Sadiq Khan got away with saying that snackbar is just "part and parcel of living in a big city" is horrifying. I need a vigil to get over it.


People can keep a stiff upper lip and get on with their lives instead of being whipped up with their two minutes of hate or do we have armed guards on the highstreet asking papiere, bitte.


Because if we turn a blind eye and just pretend nothing happened, it will all just magically disappear. Deffo....
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 23 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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do we have armed guards on the highstreet asking papiere, bitte.

If you like, although I've just stated unequivocally that it will not and can not work against the current insurgency.

It's a strange thing to suggest, but I guess you must be one of those Nazis that I hear are everywhere these days.
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 23 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
Jewlio Rides Again wrote:
How many of the doctors, nurses, taxi drivers, anyone else who chipped in last night, were Muslim?

Curious as to whether or not they all didn't help, you know, cos Muslamics.


The bomber was a Muslim, as usual when the mass murdering of Infidels is involved. He played a big part in it. HTH

He was probably a minicab driver too.


Taken me off ignore again then? That was short lived wasn't it, Donk?
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 23 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewlio Rides Again wrote:
mpd72 wrote:


The bomber was a Muslim, as usual when the mass murdering of Infidels is involved. He played a big part in it. HTH

He was probably a minicab driver too.


Taken me off ignore again then? That was short lived wasn't it, Donk?


Only whilst it's still worth seeing others post on your #ntdwi thread. Certainly not for your comments.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 23 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Jmoan wrote:
do we have armed guards on the highstreet asking papiere, bitte.

If you like, although I've just stated unequivocally that it will not and can not work against the current insurgency.


Personally, I don't believe anything could work against these retards. They are a varied bunch, and when they aren't killing themselves to kill us, they spend their time killing themselves to kill each other. Calming one set of the pricks inflames another set, and so it will continue.

This "civil war" you postulated about in the other thread is unwinnable. By both sides. I'll add that there's nothing I've seen you suggest that would be anymore helpful than handing out baloons and asking nicely.

I'll admit it is very nice and very comforting to discuss ideas with people about what is to be done to stop it (no matter how radical the idea), but it won't actually stop it.
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 23 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
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Taken me off ignore again then? That was short lived wasn't it, Donk?


Only whilst it's still worth seeing others post on your #ntdwi thread. Certainly not for your comments.


You can still access it whilst having me on ignore, Donkasaurus.
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 23 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Personally, I don't believe anything could work against these retards. They are a varied bunch, and when they aren't killing themselves to kill us, they spend their time killing themselves to kill each other. Calming one set of the pricks inflames another set, and so it will continue.

This "civil war" you postulated about in the other thread is unwinnable. By both sides. I'll add that there's nothing I've seen you suggest that would be anymore helpful than handing out baloons and asking nicely.

I'll admit it is very nice and very comforting to discuss ideas with people about what is to be done to stop it (no matter how radical the idea), but it won't actually stop it.

Would help if people weren't being radicalised, but 15+ years on we've still not acknowledged there's a problem, let alone taken steps to deal with it.
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 23 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:57 - 23 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm actually feeling a bit errr after reading this thread. I would like to postulate a general question sort of in relation.

Often you see partisan shills whatever the ideological genesis and I really do not comprehend the all or nothing mentality.

So as such, why do we have the Islam is the cause, or perhaps the socio-economic is the cause, or perhaps the mental illness nothing to do with Islam is the cause, or perhaps the fact we are still assaulting the shit out of the middle east is the only cause?

Yes yes I get what the versions of the Koran may say and the direct interpretation (I advocate Sam Harris in this) or perhaps it is nothing to do with religion as perhaps Noam Chomsky might advocate (and he makes some points). What I do not get and possibly never will is why people cannot see beyond single polarised viewpoints?

Back to an earlier post though and I must say from actual personal opinion. If you choose to blow up a load of kids then something has failed in your head. Even if religious doctrine/indoctrination was your influence, you are mentally ill. Something has failed, whether our socialisation as a citizen or whatever that allows for some cunt to dehumanise and butcher in such a manner.
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 23 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
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Personally, I don't believe anything could work against these retards. They are a varied bunch, and when they aren't killing themselves to kill us, they spend their time killing themselves to kill each other. Calming one set of the pricks inflames another set, and so it will continue.

This "civil war" you postulated about in the other thread is unwinnable. By both sides. I'll add that there's nothing I've seen you suggest that would be anymore helpful than handing out baloons and asking nicely.

I'll admit it is very nice and very comforting to discuss ideas with people about what is to be done to stop it (no matter how radical the idea), but it won't actually stop it.

Would help if people weren't being radicalised, but 15+ years on we've still not acknowledged there's a problem, let alone taken steps to deal with it.


I think it's been acknowledged as a problem for quite a while now, and as said above, I don't think there are any real steps that can be taken to deal with it as it isn't one single issue, it is many issues with many different apparent goals (and some of those goals are people who just want to blow shit up for the fuckwittery of it).

This kind of thing has been going on since the 70's. It's only really come over here more recently, but it isn't something thats easy to deal with (though these things are frequently used as excuses to clamp down on everyone else).
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 23 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogue_Shadow wrote:
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Might be silly, but everytime someone trots out #solidarity, I get a chill down my spine in relation to your post Shocked
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 23 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark_F wrote:
I think it's been acknowledged as a problem for quite a while now, and as said above, I don't think there are any real steps that can be taken to deal with it as it isn't one single issue, it is many issues with many different apparent goals (and some of those goals are people who just want to blow shit up for the fuckwittery of it).

This kind of thing has been going on since the 70's. It's only really come over here more recently, but it isn't something thats easy to deal with (though these things are frequently used as excuses to clamp down on everyone else).

You still get the you ain't no Muslim bruv line repeated every time. If there was any appetite among muslims to distance themselves from the radical elements they would be weeding it out themselves, but there isn't. Whilst not every muslim's a wannabe suicide bomber, you can bet they sympathise with the ideology.

You don't get moderate religions (including Christianity etc.), you get moderate people who feel they're automatically reflective of their faith, even if they're in the minority. The only people who benefit from our apathy and inaction are the extremists.

Sload wrote:
If you choose to blow up a load of kids then something has failed in your head. Even if religious doctrine/indoctrination was your influence, you are mentally ill. Something has failed, whether our socialisation as a citizen or whatever that allows for some cunt to dehumanise and butcher in such a manner.

No, there are some horrible people in the world, who are cold calculated killers. Throw in a sense of justification and you've all the ingredients. I thought to myself maybe this would be a turning point, I mean how the hell do you try to justify an attack on a bunch of children... and yet the same tired rhetoric's being rolled out.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 23 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troops to be deployed in the Uk
sad times
Smacks of homeland security and an excuse for a crackdown
esp during a very important election on the future of our country

Quote:
The UK terror threat level has been raised to its highest level of "critical", meaning further attacks may be imminent, Theresa May has said.

The move came after investigators were unable to rule out whether Manchester bombing suspect Salman Abedi acted alone, the prime minister said.

Military personnel will now be deployed to protect key sites.

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PostPosted: 23:27 - 23 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
I thought to myself maybe this would be a turning point, I mean how the hell do you try to justify an attack on a bunch of children... and yet the same tired rhetoric's being rolled out.

Gonna happen. Was arguing earlier that I thought we were heading towards more of an Orwellian future. Hope I'm wrong.

My only real criticism of your post is this line "Whilst not every muslim's a wannabe suicide bomber, you can bet they sympathise with the ideology."
It should have been "Whilst not every muslim's a wannabe suicide bomber, you can bet some sympathise with the ideology."

Anecdotal of course based on beer consuming Muslim friends. But of course these people would be killed by the likes of Isis before the Kafirs so I guess they do not count as true Muslims.

Yes I have seen the Pew poll data, yes I know the issue, it is still not all.
Still kinda not what I'm intrigued by though.

Also tangentially I have also seen accusations of it being a FF by the Tories due to their complete clusterfuck.

Need to sleep anyhow.
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 23 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really think if this happened in any part of Ireland South
or north then airports would be full of Middle East people leaving.
The rest would stay in doors hope for the best.

I'v no idea why people are so soft while being killed in Europe.
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PostPosted: 00:18 - 24 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:

You still get the you ain't no Muslim bruv line repeated every time. If there was any appetite among muslims to distance themselves from the radical elements they would be weeding it out themselves, but there isn't. Whilst not every muslim's a wannabe suicide bomber, you can bet they sympathise with the ideology.

You don't get moderate religions (including Christianity etc.), you get moderate people who feel they're automatically reflective of their faith, even if they're in the minority. The only people who benefit from our apathy and inaction are the extremists.


There is appetite for some muslims to distance themselves from the retards, and they do so as vocally as they can (and the media, however reluctantly in some cases, do actually tell their side from time to time). Some do assist the police etc, you just don't hear about that. Suggesting that every muslim sympathises with that ideology is talking nonsense. Some do, some don't, much like every other demographic in the entire world. You need to bear in mind that Islam is full of differing sects, each with differing ideologies, who are trying to kill each other far more than they're trying to kill us in the west (and it is not just one sect or ideology that wants to nailbomb concerts and public places).

I agree that moderate religions don't really exist (the teachings of most are barbaric in many cases), but it isn't just an issue of religion: there are many pathetic excuses given for this behaviour (and the behaviour of our "representatives" who no doubt project a nasty image of us in some places through the world because we happen to be British, even though individually we may disagree with the actions that are taken in our name enough to protest about it).
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PostPosted: 04:58 - 24 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark_F wrote:
I agree that moderate religions don't really exist (the teachings of most are barbaric in many cases)....


I missed the current news reports of Christians, Buddhists and Sikhs going around on mass killing sprees because God told them to, I must be watching all the wrong news. All the reports I see show only one religion with an overwhelming zero tolerance to the point of killing unbelievers, and that would be Islam, whether it's strawberry, chocolate chip or fudge wiping the other out to be flavour of the month or extra vanilla going on a rampage to show it's more vanilla and not some wishy-washy artificial flavour, it's all still Islam. I'm sure some virtual signalling over-apologetic cunt like Jewlio will pull out a single attack from 10 or 20 years ago so he can make himself feeling so fucking smug, but the problem with Islam, in particular Wahabist Sunni Islam out of Saudi Arabia, is repeatedly consistent and numerous over the past years, where not a month goes by without an attack or incident somewhere, and the frequency of violent attacks and killing only increases.

The apologists and virtue signallers are just enablers for this bullshit to continue. Don't give me the every sky God is equally as bad bullshit, because there's only one whose followers are so more fucking equal at killing that it's off the fucking scale, and it isn't the Church of England, the Sikhs or Krishnas is it?
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PostPosted: 06:53 - 24 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark_F wrote:
This "civil war" you postulated about in the other thread is unwinnable. By both sides. I'll add that there's nothing I've seen you suggest that would be anymore helpful than handing out baloons and asking nicely.

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Arrow Withdraw entirely from all military operations in all muslim countries. Wish the septics the very best of luck. Remove all possible excuses.
Arrow Revoke the 1972 ECA.
Arrow Withdrawn from the ECJ and ECHR.
Arrow Halt all Saudi funding of mosques.
Arrow Rename the Department for International Development as the Department for Internal Deradicalisation (they won't even have to change their mouse mats and mugs). Direct its 12 billion of funding at deporting snackbar preachers (we already know who they are), bribing dusty armpits whatever is necessary to take them
Arrow When that creates a new tranche of snackbar advocates, deport them too. Repeat as necessary. 12 billion, remember.
Arrow Revoke citizenship and shred passports on exit, both for ejected snackbars, and for those headed for a jihad holiday. Again, we already have a list. The problem is a reactive policy, an assumption of innocence, and letting the feckers back in again.
Arrow Secure our borders. Immigration only on a points system. Being muslim or from a muslim nation scores negative a trillion. No fugees. No "right to a family life" mass imports. Not our problem.
Arrow And most importantly, cut all welfare funding and access to all services including and especially legal aid for anyone with foreign or dual citizenship. The only funding should be for one way outgoing flights, and bribing despots to take their problems back.

Note the lack of cattle trucks, gas chambers or images of wailing families being thrown onto flights.

Which specific points do you have a problem with?

Why do you think handing out baloons (sic) would be as helpful as refusing entry to "refugees"?

You get that the most recent snackbar was carried out by a "refugee", right?
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PostPosted: 08:33 - 24 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but the problem with Islam, in particular Wahabist Sunni Islam out of Saudi Arabia, is repeatedly consistent and numerous over the past years, where not a month goes by without an attack or incident somewhere, and the frequency of violent attacks and killing only increases.


What you mean the same Wahabist that the British Empire funded to oust the Ottomans?

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fucking equal at killing that it's off the fucking scale, and it isn't the Church of England, the Sikhs or Krishnas is it?



Really? There was a Christian holy war in 1852. 30-46 million people died.

100 years ago there was a lets civilise the natives with Christianity. 15 million people died.

So you're saying one group with a small body count is worse than one with a body count x100000 higher?




I'm not apologising for anything. Just calling you out on all of group X is Y when really all humans are as bad as each other. Circumstance, opportunity and being nuts alter the possibility of these outcomes.

The badness of those you see now is proof you need to label all of group X.
While the badness of your own past is proof you need to label all of group Y.

Take for instance ISIS...oh they do some terrible things. Yes they do.

Yet are the things they do really all that different from what the western world does? Take for instance what the US did in Vietnam. Go look at the Winter Soldier testimonies rape and mass executions of civilians was US policy. Or Tiger Force in Vietnam...

This was justified under the MGR, that we're just gooks... so how different exactly is this from they are all khafirs mentality those who do bad things today hold? Or the current trend on this thread of all group M are T?





Yet all of these don't count for some reason.



Hetz is unfortunately spot on. Look at all the division this has caused amongst this microcosm of a community. Motorbikes are more dangerous than these people what 750 died in 2014?
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You get that the most recent snackbar was carried out by a "refugee", right?


So what you're saying is essentially you can never ever be part of the in group?

Yet at the same time you're wondering why certain groups feel they don't belong?

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Itchy wrote:
[more ancient butthurt history]

History never killed anyone, unless a particularly heavy book falls on you.

The problem we have is with the current generation, and largely the yoofs. It's a problem about now, and the future, not the past.

Itchy wrote:
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You get that the most recent snackbar was carried out by a "refugee", right?

So what you're saying is essentially you can never ever be part of the in group?

Nope. You're saying that. You say it every time there's an opportunity, because it's how you feel.

Itchy wrote:
Yet at the same time you're wondering why certain groups feel they don't belong?

Nope.

I don't wonder because I don't care. Don't let certain groups into the country in the first place and it's not a problem.

Japan unapologetically socially excludes all non-Japanese, and yet it doesn't have a problem with snackbar.

Why's that?


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Troops to be deployed in the Uk

Maybe. Not at the military installation that I'm currently observing (because we have windows, and I can't not see it. Stand down, GCHQ).


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What I do not get and possibly never will is why people cannot see beyond single polarised viewpoints?

Because you are not stupids but many people are stupids. Average IQs in the Middle East and Africa range from 85 (the sweet spot for criminality) down to the mid 60s. And before anyone starts with the "but but you can't measure that it's all estimates also racisms" then why are those regions so impoverished and backward and the people desperate to flee them rather than fix them?

Being stupids is why they're easily conned into mass murdering non-stupids children.

Mindless intolerance is why we must gas all stupids.
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 24 May 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark_F wrote:
Personally, I don't believe anything could work against these retards.


Poland has a Muslim population of less than 0.1% of the population. They do this mainly by making them unwelcome.

http://shoebat.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/GettyImages-496693718-1024x664.jpg

Now lets have a look at what affect this has on Islamic terror attacks. See that country to the East of Germany? Oh look, attack free.

I think I've found the answer.

https://i.redditmedia.com/o12FvYqdP5X09v5V4XhljsAfw_TLZDu4aIu8R0rkffg.jpg?w=831&s=a30b60da56b882570ceafc74f97fd309
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