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| Jewlio Rides Again wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: |
No there isn't
At the time of the 2016 Irish census the number of Muslims had increased from 49,000 to 63,000, an increase of 29%. In 1991, the number of Muslims was below 4,000 (3,873). Islam is a minority religion in Ireland, behind Roman Catholicism and members of the Church of Ireland
Even at 63000 it's a lot easier to keep tabs on any extreme behavior compared with the 3 million in UK.
63000, peanuts,  More disillusioned people go and watch Manchester United on a Saturday. |
Referring to bnp72's chart of attacks on the last page. So what you're saying is, bnp72's lying?  |
Oh I see. On that map I presume the way that is concentrated in NI it is all historical terror attacks and those are IRA.
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| jjdugen wrote: | Maybe I'm missing something in this debate. Following the logics expressed variously in these threads, Muslims = Bad, White = Good, (to break it down into simplistic terms).
And yet, fifty years ago a cornerstone of the Anglo Saxon genus was busily murdering men, women and children on an industrial scale.
These were not unwashed, uneducated tribesmen, they were the flower of European 'civilisation'.
This was done with the, sometimes, tacit support of the general population. And this was no deep seated belief spanning centuries, it was formed, fostered and accepted within the space of ten years.
We it would seem, are just as capable of embracing genocidal views and pretty damn good at organising its outcome.
So, why are we not engaged in a sporadic, but lethal, confrontation with the children of Deutchland? Could it be that we stopped shooting them and accepted that friendship, assistance and support works better than vilification?
I accept that the natural reaction to mindless atrocity is to strike out and seek vengeance....... But.......... |
What happened in 1967 then? 
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| Jewlio Rides Again wrote: |
Referring to bnp72's chart of attacks on the last page. So what you're saying is, bnp72's lying? |
It was a map of all terror attacks, not just Islamic. Poland being "attack free" means not one single Islamic Attack. There are others of just Islamic attacks on Google if you can be bothered to look, but this one highlights the point very well.
You'll probably spout some bollocks to try to lower the validity, but it's irrelevant. I couldn't give a flying shit if the map writer added 2 to Iceland for shits and giggles, the map was used purely to show that Poland has had zero Islamic (and non Islamic) terror attacks since 9/11, which is the pertinent point.
Why? 0.1% Muslim population? Because they take no shit from radical Islam? Because they don't have a vocal minority of "refugees welcome" yogurt weavers?
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| Jewlio Rides Again wrote: | | mpd72 wrote: |
It was a map of all terror attacks, not just Islamic. Poland being "attack free" means not one single Islamic Attack. There are others of just Islamic attacks on Google if you can be bothered to look, but this one highlights the point very well.
You'll probably spout some bollocks to try to lower the validity, but it's irrelevant. I couldn't give a flying shit if the map writer added 2 to Iceland for shits and giggles, the map was used purely to show that Poland has had zero Islamic (and non Islamic) terror attacks since 9/11, which is the pertinent point.
Why? 0.1% Muslim population? Because they take no shit from radical Islam? Because they don't have a vocal minority of "refugees welcome" yogurt weavers? |
How is their healthcare system? |
Not busting at the seams, like other social services with abuse from Muslim immigrants. 
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| Sload wrote: | | M.C wrote: | I thought to myself maybe this would be a turning point, I mean how the hell do you try to justify an attack on a bunch of children... and yet the same tired rhetoric's being rolled out. |
Gonna happen. Was arguing earlier that I thought we were heading towards more of an Orwellian future. Hope I'm wrong.
My only real criticism of your post is this line "Whilst not every muslim's a wannabe suicide bomber, you can bet they sympathise with the ideology."
It should have been "Whilst not every muslim's a wannabe suicide bomber, you can bet some sympathise with the ideology."
Anecdotal of course based on beer consuming Muslim friends. But of course these people would be killed by the likes of Isis before the Kafirs so I guess they do not count as true Muslims.
Yes I have seen the Pew poll data, yes I know the issue, it is still not all.
Still kinda not what I'm intrigued by though.
Also tangentially I have also seen accusations of it being a FF by the Tories due to their complete clusterfuck.
Need to sleep anyhow. |
I know one muslim person I'd consider moderate, and he's a moderate person (ignores the retarded elements of his own religion). Think I've said this to you before but steer the conversation towards homosexuality, women or attitudes towards Jews and bask in the tolerance.
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There is appetite for some muslims to distance themselves from the retards, and they do so as vocally as they can (and the media, however reluctantly in some cases, do actually tell their side from time to time). Some do assist the police etc, you just don't hear about that. Suggesting that every muslim sympathises with that ideology is talking nonsense. Some do, some don't, much like every other demographic in the entire world. You need to bear in mind that Islam is full of differing sects, each with differing ideologies, who are trying to kill each other far more than they're trying to kill us in the west (and it is not just one sect or ideology that wants to nailbomb concerts and public places).
I agree that moderate religions don't really exist (the teachings of most are barbaric in many cases), but it isn't just an issue of religion: there are many pathetic excuses given for this behaviour (and the behaviour of our "representatives" who no doubt project a nasty image of us in some places through the world because we happen to be British, even though individually we may disagree with the actions that are taken in our name enough to protest about it). |
Pretty much what I wrote above. Tolerant and moderate Muslims are in the minority based on my experience (of friends/work colleagues etc.), you can kid yourself all you want but there's data to backup the frankly backward opinions held but large amounts of the Muslim community. |
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| CliveFa wrote: | My take on that is that it comes down to us or them. I am in favour of eradicating them first. |
And of course you're aware that a Muslim holocaust attempt is exactly what they're trying to provoke, because nothing increases their recruitment better. You're very easily manipulated.
Don't get me wrong, I believe wiping out 1.5 billion Muslims would indeed kill off Islamic terrorism. It would probably start terrorism of a different kind too though, not to mention going down as a bit of a bad patch in history.
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| barrkel wrote: | | CliveFa wrote: | My take on that is that it comes down to us or them. I am in favour of eradicating them first. |
And of course you're aware that a Muslim holocaust attempt is exactly what they're trying to provoke, because nothing increases their recruitment better. You're very easily manipulated.
Don't get me wrong, I believe wiping out 1.5 billion Muslims would indeed kill off Islamic terrorism. It would probably start terrorism of a different kind too though, not to mention going down as a bit of a bad patch in history. |
We'd better just hold a few candle lit vigils and hug a few Muslims then?
Or, before it's too late, we could make them less welcome, we could stop bending over backwards to allow them to practice their dubious morals, laws and practices in out country, you know, like Poland do.
Cases of Islamic extremism in Poland...... Zero.
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Anyone remember, around a year ago, Greater Manchester Polices' cringeworthy apology to those that should never be offended or criticised?
Kowtowing Tossers.
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| jjdugen wrote: | Apologies for historical inaccuracy, only seems like yesterday to me.....
Point still seems valid to me. Yes, agreed, we did bomb NAZI Germany into submission. We had to do, they damn near fought to the last man to support a genocidal system. Now we buy their cars and (used to) listen to Kraftwerk. We imposed as system of, for the want of a better word, democracy on a nation as brain washed as Ali Baba and his kin.
Its a sort of proof that tolerance 'can' work, but it would be simplistic to suggest that those solutions can be applied to rabid fundamentalism. Except they did work, couldn't get more rabid and fundamentalist than Adolf's crew. |
How? People fought against fascism, they didn't say it'll be alright... well they did at the start and look what happened. What happened in Germany post-war says more about the inhabitants, contrast that to Afganistan and Iraq. You're wasting your time trying to instill democratic values on some people.
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| bhinso wrote: | I think it's time for the Islamic community |
Which islamic community?
Sunni, Shia, Salafist, Ahmadi? Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Afghan, Turkish, Syrian, Libyan, Moroccan, Somalian or any of the two dozen other islamic tribes that detest each other nearly as much as kuffār?
See the turf wars at Glasgow mosque for more on that.
We could, for example, declare open season on Salafists, and Shia, Amhadi and even moderate Sunni would cheer from the minarets.
Heck, come for the Taqlid Salafists, and the Madhhab Salafists will point them out for you.
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I'm talking about all those in our country, the ones that come out to show unity against terror.
And good find Raffles.
"Greater Manchester Police came under fire on social media following the staged training exercise with people demanding to know why it had been linked to Islam"
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