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Sload wrote: | The irony in a weird way is the security services that we eye with scepticism are our only true defence. Something about liberty, applause. |
Well it's an odd one, they've foiled plots, even the ones that have succeeded have been by people already known to them, yet they want more access to people's data.
Falco wrote: | However, that is precisely my point. They can't categorise the people they have, they can't process the amount of information they are collecting and they can't follow everyone. The sensible response would be to focus their resources, the actual response will be to demand more until they can surveil 25% of the population, 24/7. |
Maybe, I honestly don't know. If it's a case of (for example) 100 suspects yet they can only follow 50 then it's resources, as above I don't recall them ever saying this came out of nowhere. Sure having data on everyone (which they already have a lot of access to) might make their job easier, but for most people that's a step too far, especially with all the other potential misuses. |
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Falco wrote: | Maybe Ban Islam totally? That seems...infeasible. |
Why totally? When Irish Republican Catholics were going bombastic, we didn't ban Christianity. We didn't even ban Catholicism or Irish Republican Catholics.
Ahmadis are part of the solution. Shia aren't a problem. Moderate Sunnis aren't a problem. Wahhabists, probably not.
Apolitical Salifists, keep an eye on them.
Salafi jihadists, there we go. That's what we mean when we talk coyly about "extremists", we just don't come out and say it.
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Aaaaaand Corporate HQ is having a 1 minute silence today, to think about inclusiveness and teddy bears and candles.
With an alarm marking the start and end.
The same alarm that would sound in the event of a snackbar attack on the site.
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oldpink wrote: | So the yanks know more than we do
first they publish his name before the cops wanted it known
now they are showing evidence of the device in open press and the cops are furious
Quote: | UK investigators have reacted with anger after a US newspaper published photos apparently showing the scene of the Manchester bomb attack.
Senior counter terrorism policing figures said the leak undermined their investigation and the confidence of victims and witnesses.
Earlier the UK home secretary said she was irritated with the US for releasing information about bomber Salman Abedi.
Amber Rudd said she had told Washington "it should not happen again". |
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Not entirely true, they know the same as us.
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While he was actually saying him son a good boy, him dindu nuffin.
If that's the last that anyone ever hears of him, I'd be delighted. Knowing that your family will pay for your actions is pretty much the only possible deterrent to suicide bombers.
No, it's not justice, but they're not playing by the same rules. You can't punish or rehabilitate a pile of giblets.
Huh, the Daily Star (yes, I know, that's why I highlight it) are reporting that the Yanks have leaked that his own mum shopped him as a snackbarista. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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OK let's boil it down nice and simple just how I like things.
What do we as the general, mentally stable, masses of reasonable and balanced Western countries and Europe do then?
In actual fact let's fuck that, what do we whats left of the British original home race and British principles do about Islamic terrorism and ISIS?
1, carry on as normal, expect and accept attacks on our towns and people and get on with life, not giving any attention to the fanatics trying to destroy our land or take it over as an Islamic state/Muslim country?
2, Group together and go and smash some skulls? But who what and where? And can huge my guns and bombs are bigger than yours silence the middle east weirdos, a bit like the cold war?
I agree with not giving media attention to these events, to try and stop them getting worse and keeping our heads down and getting on with life, so we don't sensationalise these attacks for the jhaddis to have a wank over.
I also agree with free flights out of the UK, no immigrants being allowed to bring families over, and no asylum seekers or illegals allowed to put a toe on any of our shores. We need to bin over 10million people in this country just to make enough room, space, houses and schools for us to all live without killing each other because of overcrowding anyway. Who shall we cull or just round up and fly out to a frozen wildernesses?
I'm interested in this idea that we are as Itchy says too weak in the UK, too reserved and politically correct, and won't stand up to things or fight in a savage way to protect what we've got. I believe he once said this makes us weak, and a laughing stock to other nations, and also liable to take over, infiltration and even brainwashing?
Or is my final sad point, that we are already 20years too late, and the UK is finished, because of a melting pot of too many races and other nationalities living here, mixing, and making it their home. What does the average majority of proud to be British people look like these days? And what percentage of the UK residents would be prepared to stand up and fight in a war for Britain and it's greatness?
Lastly can anyone tell me is there a country or even city that is a melting pot with no defining race or majority people, that really does work well and they all live in harmony together and accept and tolerate and respect each other? |
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stevo as b4 wrote: | OK let's boil it down nice and simple just how I like things.
What do we as the general, mentally stable, masses of reasonable and balanced Western countries and Europe do then?
In actual fact let's fuck that, what do we whats left of the British original home race and British principles do about Islamic terrorism and ISIS?
1, carry on as normal, expect and accept attacks on our towns and people and get on with life, not giving any attention to the fanatics trying to destroy our land or take it over as an Islamic state/Muslim country?
2, Group together and go and smash some skulls? But who what and where? And can huge my guns and bombs are bigger than yours silence the middle east weirdos, a bit like the cold war?
I agree with not giving media attention to these events, to try and stop them getting worse and keeping our heads down and getting on with life, so we don't sensationalise these attacks for the jhaddis to have a wank over.
I also agree with free flights out of the UK, no immigrants being allowed to bring families over, and no asylum seekers or illegals allowed to put a toe on any of our shores. We need to bin over 10million people in this country just to make enough room, space, houses and schools for us to all live without killing each other because of overcrowding anyway. Who shall we cull or just round up and fly out to a frozen wildernesses?
I'm interested in this idea that we are as Itchy says too weak in the UK, too reserved and politically correct, and won't stand up to things or fight in a savage way to protect what we've got. I believe he once said this makes us weak, and a laughing stock to other nations, and also liable to take over, infiltration and even brainwashing?
Or is my final sad point, that we are already 20years too late, and the UK is finished, because of a melting pot of too many races and other nationalities living here, mixing, and making it their home. What does the average majority of proud to be British people look like these days? And what percentage of the UK residents would be prepared to stand up and fight in a war for Britain and it's greatness?
Lastly can anyone tell me is there a country or even city that is a melting pot with no defining race or majority people, that really does work well and they all live in harmony together and accept and tolerate and respect each other? |
There's plenty we can do. Not bending over backwards to assist the rapid growth or Radical Islam in the UK wold be a good start.
Making life in their little unintegrated UK calpihates a bit less comfortable might be a second.
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Excellent post.
If we are honest this country is a shit hole and going to get worse. Is it all due to immigration, no. Is a lot due to uncontrolled immigration, yes.
People go on about lazy wankers on the sink estates living on the dole and now it's true. But who pushed them into that corner. When I was brought up on a rough estate as a kid there was still pride in the country even though we were poor. So in 40ish years we have gone from a country that people were proud to serve to a shit hole full of grasping gimmes, uncontrolled youth and foreign ghettos where the police fear to tread.
I believe the Brexit was the older people who remember what the country was like and the younger people who haven't been brainwashed by the loony left (aka racists tm.Diane Abbott) trying to turn the clock back but even though we won, the remainers are already watering it down and down. I honestly believe the end result will be us being in EU in everything but name.
From the political point of view, I'm glad I'm old. I believe my generation is the last that will have any pride in this country. The kids coming through now just do not understand. I've shown my kids the 'Thank you for your sacrifice' letters and the medals my Gran got when her husband and his brother were killed on the Murmansk convoys during the war and seen their eyes glaze over into 'Dads on his high horse again' look. They aren't interested, it's just a piece out of the history books to them. (they are at least law abiding good kids though, so we did something right).
We will never bring back hanging. We will never openly arrest and incarcerate potential bombers because 'human rights'
The only way to change it would be a dictatorship or a method of government and a leader like Putin and do we want that.
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