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Posted: 09:25 - 26 May 2017 Post subject: Fairly in-depth article on bike theft |
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As usual, at Bennets.
(URL if linky-still-no-worky is https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2017/may/motorcycle-crime-the-facts )
Turns out that the eye watering 27,000+ thefts figure only cover bikes taken by force (against the bike at least). Those stolen by getting access to the keys via burglary or fraud ("working on the rigs") aren't even included.
"Giant transporters with mechanics in the rear stripping stolen bikes have been stopped by police. These vehicles – owned by organised crime gangs – are also on the move 24/7, travelling from country to country, collecting and delivering stolen bikes and parts."
"749 of the 1299 pursuits carried out by the Met last year were abandoned due to the safety of the riders and the prevention of any collateral damage. The thieves simply removing their helmets will see a pursuit stopped."
"Ironically though, thieves are now using their own cheap tracking devices to find their prey that they fix to a machine and track to its home [to get the keys, presumably] without spooking owners. If they steal the bike they can use the device again."
And so on. Mmm, numbars. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
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Linky no work |
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Yup, looks like they've even stolen the article |
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Must have been secured with a Thatcham approved lock... ____________________ NSR125RR - ZXR750H1 - ZX9R E1 - GSF600S - GSF600SK3 - VFR400-NC30 - SV1000N - ST1100-R - CBR900RR-R - GSF1200SK5 - GSF600SK1 - VFR1200FA - GSXR1000K2 - ZZR1400 D8F
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Posted: 10:23 - 26 May 2017 Post subject: Re: Fairly in-depth article on bike theft |
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Rogerborg wrote: | "749 of the 1299 pursuits carried out by the Met last year were abandoned due to the safety of the riders and the prevention of any collateral damage. The thieves simply removing their helmets will see a pursuit stopped." |
This figure is the tip of the iceberg as the recorded ones are probably by the officers "allowed" to chase bikes.
If you factor in the rest of the response / advanced police drivers who see the bikes but wont engage for fear of prison I bet it would be tens of thousands.
I cant lay the blame at the feet of the police on this one. Its the outcry when these thieves die through their own stupidity that causes it.
but then its the same with knife crime. london cried about stop and search, got what they wanted and now knife crime is worse than ever. ____________________ Current : '08 Yamaha FZ1s
Previous: '99 Honda CBR 600FX, 03 ZX636 B1H, 99 Fazer 600 (red), 02 GSX-R 600 K2, 00 SV650s (red), 2008 ZX10R, 97 Bandit 1200N, 04 ZX6RR K1H, 04 GSX-R 1000, 98 Fazer 600 (gold), 05 Madness 110 Pit bike, 04 CR125R, 00 SV650s (black), 06 KTM 625 SMC, 99 SRAD 600 track bike, 03 SV650, 98 Bandit 1200N, Bandit 600SY, 03 GSX-R 600 K3, 01 GSX-R 600, 01 Fazer 600 (black), VFR 400 NC30 x3, 78 Honda Dream, 00 Speedfight 50 |
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Talking of theft, daylight robbery and Bennetts.
I'll be ringing them later for a 'Mods declared' insurance quote for the Spacker. I could do with a laugh... ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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How much of the UK bike theft problem and insurance company losses/rising premiums is down to London and the other big cities?
What should insurance companies do, and employers and owners etc etc. Should the following be implemented?
1, Three repeat thefts and your out, in terms of not being able to insure a bike again for say 3years?
2, should after one or two thefts, the insurance company insist on you doing something different I.e. Better security, secure out of sight parking, more electronics fitted (trackers etc).
They could say that your bike must never be left on the street, or at open carparks and train stations etc.
3, Employers, should they either be forced to offer secure indoor or underground bike parking for their staff up on the 11th floor etc, and if they can't do this should they have a no bike policy for staff, so effectively banning employees riding to work, if they can only Park in the street etc.
Pretty harsh ideas, and I'm relating it mainly to people using bikes for daily transport, but surely with £15k superbikes being repeatedly stolen in London etc, they can't let it carry on forever as it's costing everyone way too much.
I know people do have rare Ducati WSB replicas and other examples of expensive bikes nicked from well locked secluded garages in leafy Surrey or rural Cheshire etc, but this is not the biggest and most common issue is it?
I know dealers and importers can be targeted by organised theft (Paggetts for example) but again I'm guessing this proportion of the theft figures as a whole is not a big player in the cost of theft overall. |
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Stevo, you really are anti-bike, aren't you?
4. Get the police to do some proper policing ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Read the article - the rozzers aren't the problem.
Anyway, I blame MCN. He clearly doesn't want his gaff blown. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 312 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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