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PostPosted: 17:01 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: reliability/ trusting your bike Reply with quote

I've had my bike now for a couple of years an only really used it for short journeys, longest was probably 60 miles around trip.

I dunno why but feel i cant trust it to go further, I dunno why, its serviced an runs pretty well*

What would make you not trust a bike to go any sort of distance?

Am i being a girl?


* touches wood


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PostPosted: 17:04 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Re: reliabilty/ trusting your bike Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
I've had my bike now for a couple of years an only really used it for short journeys, longest was probably 60 miles around trip.

I dunno why but feel i cant trust it to go further, I dunno why, its serviced an runs pretty well*

What would make you not trust a bike to go any sort of distance?

Am i being a girl?


* touches wood


Yes you're being a girl. Been all over the place on bikes, and *touch wood* not been let down yet.
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

What bike is it?
How well do you look after it?

Out of all the bikes I've had over 30+ years of biking, I've had 2 breakdowns. The first was a snapped chain on my Kwak 750 Turbo, and the other was a rear wheel bearing failure on my 3rd Fazer thou. Must have covered a trillion miles in that time. Not even had a puncture.

(I am currently touching all the wood I can get my hands on like a mad bastard!)
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Re: reliabilty/ trusting your bike Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
I've had my bike now for a couple of years an only really used it for short journeys, longest was probably 60 miles around trip.

I dunno why but feel i cant trust it to go further, I dunno why, its serviced an runs pretty well*

What would make you not trust a bike to go any sort of distance?

Am i being a girl?


* touches wood


Get breakdown recovery and stop worrying.
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I go on the basis that a week's commute is 150 miles; if it can handle that, I'm good for a 150 mile jaunt. If I can commute for a month with no issues, that's 600 miles I'd be happy with.

Given that I rarely do more than 250 miles in one go, it doesn't take too much for me to stop worrying.
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried to get breakdown an they refused with it being a 1996 Bandit, bad times

to be fair, i have looked after said bike, but god knows how the previous 40 (probably) owners have.....
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id look at it as what's likely to go wrong on a Bandit?

For any 90's bike, it's probably going to be wiring/electrics and consumables that'll be the reliability issues now.

Lots of chassis bearing and bits that should be lathered in lots of grease are the things that are likely to all start failing at once when they get old and have never been given any attention yet.

But on a Bandit, simple solid steel frame, bullet proof engine, loads of cheap spares, and there's still pattern parts on the shelf like exhausts, shocks, brake discs and gaskets etc.

I don't think there's much to worry about in this case.

You haven't bought a bike with a terrible reputation for failure, a weird or obscure model that's a mare for parts, or a bike that has a hand grenade engine reputation.

Bandits might well be around in the apocalypse, and if Mad max ever becomes the norm you'd be far better off on a Bandit than an RGV etc.
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is something I rarely consider.

I worked in the Sahara for 4 years and the only thing we worried about was to take enough fags and water. Smile
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode my '83 powervalve to Amsterdam, 400 miles each way with no breakdown cover, not long after I got back it suffered from the common CDI death syndrome.
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have 'Home-Start' on my AA cover...
I have a far better tool kit in my shed than they have in thier van... what they going to do, I cant?
So much more common shorter journeys, as in the 2-miles or so to and from town are probably the greater worry on my 25 year old machines, as they wont come out & recover if you are within walking distance of 'home'!.... It was a bitch pushing quarter ton of 750 1/4 mile home the other week, when I flattened the battery trying to start it, fumbling the fuel tap NOT actually onto reserve! Doh! Moment! I should have taken the battery off, walked home with that, charged it and gone back and fitted it, really... but of course... locks were in the paniers.... and I had taken them off 'just' before I popped out for a pack of fags to fix a broken zip tag!!! Typical! Sitting at the side of the road, miles from home, reading a book, on a sunny afternoon, waiting for a van to turn up sounds quite appealing in comparison!

You takes your chances either which way...

Pay heed to the service schedule.. and ride wherever... just remember shit happens!! And breakdown is but one mishap you might encounter.
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I own a R6 5EB.

I am literally waiting for second gear to explode, and the cylinder liners to crack ffs.

zero fucks given.

its going to the alps next month Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
I tried to get breakdown an they refused with it being a 1996 Bandit, bad times

to be fair, i have looked after said bike, but god knows how the previous 40 (probably) owners have.....


Get a policy that covers YOU not the bike. The AA have never batted an eyelid if it was a 2016 Panigale, 1993 Monster or even a 1974 RD250.
(The list of recovered bikes is longer, shortened to make a more readable post!)
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Re: reliability/ trusting your bike Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:


What would make you not trust a bike to go any sort of distance?

Am i being a girl?

* touches wood


Hmmm? Poor maintenance on any bike will make me not trust it.
However there are also makes of bike that I am not so sure I'd like to trust for a major long distance.

For example: my Honley RX3 is working well and well maintained, but I wouldn't want to do a long Scottish tour on it yet until I have had a few more trips out on it without any hiccups.

Secondly my ZX6r , is well maintained and I would hop on it without even thinking about how far I needed to go.

* Shocked whose wood have you been touching?
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's a cb500 - trust is the only thing i've got Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
I tried to get breakdown an they refused with it being a 1996 Bandit, bad times

https://www.autoaidbreakdown.co.uk/

Alternatively, it's a 21 year old Bandit. If it breaks down, rip the plate and VIN off of it and get a bus home.
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't trust my "new" one - yet. She was stood for 3ish years, and I'm discovering the first owner was a fucking butcher with wiring. However, she'll get there, it's only just over a week I've had her on the road.

Once she's sorted, the vibration will stop me long before reliability issues ever will. I went to the Peak and back from N. Wales on a 125 with a very noisy engine that was on the way out, that's what recovery is for... "No idea mate, made a nasty noise then stopped dead. If you bank with Nationwide, the Flexplus includes this Wink

Pushing it home up a sodding hill when the clutch cable snapped on the way to work was less than fun, but I don't have recovery within 3 (I think) miles..
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Re: reliability/ trusting your bike Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
What would make you not trust a bike to go any sort of distance?

Anytime I've done a new (to me) maintenance/repair job on it, be it the brake fluid change, new wheel bearings or the first time I took the loose wheel off to get a new tyre and then had to refit it. But it has to be ridden, I'm cautious and I have RAC cover. Very Happy You get over it.
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bought new, got a couple of years Yamacare so free recovery. Tested out recently when I rode into a ditch puncturing
my rad. Oddly the RAC who I called at the outset didn't cover me for accident recovery, only breakdown but they
knew I had this Yamacare thing when frankly I hadn't even read the letter. Result, it would have cost me a hundred
quid for recovery otherwise.
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
I tried to get breakdown an they refused with it being a 1996 Bandit, bad times

to be fair, i have looked after said bike, but god knows how the previous 40 (probably) owners have.....


I have the recovery, not the bike....
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread has made me think about how I/we coped in the bad old days before roadside recovery was affordable.

When I was a spotty yoof, on more than one occasion I rode from West London to Southend and back over the week end on my little Honda MT5 .
I never even gave roadside recovery a second thought.
Also that little Honda never ever missed a beat.
We had an assortment of bikes and peds and none of us worried about our bikes or had roadside recovery.
We had a couple of fs1e's , a Suzuki gt 185, a Honda SS50, a Honda MT 50, and a Triumph tiger 90 and the only one to ever let us down on route was the Tiger 90 Laughing .
Luckily it was minor (boogies in the float bowl) and we fixed it at the roadside.
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take it you had a nice little unmolested MT5 that was fairly new then?

I knew someone that got through a big end within a week of putting on a 65cc kit.

A lad at school had a lovely Honda, it was AFAIK an MBX80 liquid cooled, but with 50cc side panels. No one in my school ever had anything that would keep up with it. These were in the days before the Derbi Senda and Minarelli AM6 engine though.
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
This thread has made me think about how I/we coped in the bad old days before roadside recovery was affordable.

When I was a spotty yoof, on more than one occasion I rode from West London to Southend and back over the week end on my little Honda MT5 .
I never even gave roadside recovery a second thought.
Also that little Honda never ever missed a beat.
We had an assortment of bikes and peds and none of us worried about our bikes or had roadside recovery.
We had a couple of fs1e's , a Suzuki gt 185, a Honda SS50, a Honda MT 50, and a Triumph tiger 90 and the only one to ever let us down on route was the Tiger 90 Laughing .
Luckily it was minor (boogies in the float bowl) and we fixed it at the roadside.


Getting a bit technical there peppers Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
This thread has made me think about how I/we coped in the bad old days before roadside recovery was affordable.

When I was a spotty yoof, on more than one occasion I rode from West London to Southend and back over the week end on my little Honda MT5 .
I never even gave roadside recovery a second thought.

That's just the foolishness/presumed invincibility of youth. The top MotoGP riders started riding in childhood and never doubted themselves or their bikes. (Impressively, Biaggi was the exception.) I hadn't ridden a motorcycle until my late 30's, by which time I knew I was fallible and mortal.
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 04 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
... a Suzuki gt 185


I had one of them, it was scary when it was running and a proper PITA when it decided to play up. Only machine that I've ever had a front tyre blow out. Bloody thing used to partially seize up for a pastime...but it was bloody good fun.
70's and 80's machines used to have their quirks. XS250's would close up their points regularly so one would carry a screwdriver and allen key to take the cover off and open them back up again. Two minute job.
My old Z400 pulled that one on me on a trip from Devon to London and back and I ended up 'borrowing' a fork from the nearby Little Chef to open the cover and adjust the points as I didn't have a screwdriver with me.
No problems with post 90's machines, obviously if you're the type to ignore failing bearings, have slack chains, fail to change oil regularly, etc, etc then breakdowns shouldn't come as a surprise. I've had machines not want to start but don't recall the last time one left me stranded at the roadside - tell a lie, fuel issue, Z400, June 1st 1994 (easy to recall as I was headed to hospital when #1 child was about to pop out).
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