Bike Trac, worth the dollar?

[NJD]

So TLDR is I had Barny and his four mates (5 lads on 3 mopeds) rock up on mopeds last week not long after I parked up and fucked of when they looked at the chains on it, didn't bother returning. Made me realise that while I've got more than the norm, compared to others that ride around me, in terms of security (locks) if it fucks of I'm out of pocket and probably wouldn't think twice about moving on and doing something else (ie: not investing in another one.)

Anyway, doom and gloom aside, I've come across Bike Trac and like the idea.

Way I look at it: cheaper investment than excess on insurance (and comes without the offer of an insulting figure post theft and hassle that comes with it) and cheaper than a brand new bike overall.

Question is, from those who have one or have had one for quite a while (based on some threads), is the product you get in return worth the wod of cash you fork out for it?

£400 for the product and a years subscription plus whatever you pay for installation is a lot of cash, even with installation fee's aside. Before I phone the local Kwak dealer or (depending on what price Kwak quote) my trusted independent just want to be sure I'm barking up the right tree.


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[1198]

It's a condition of my insurance I have one fitted. I occasionally get a call when I forget to de-activate it before I wash the bike, but since a recent data update it works well. Prior to this I'd get six or ten text messages per ride saying I'd fallen off...

[P.]

Depends, if the bike is worth anything, yes.

If I spent 10k on a bike, I'd probably consider it, if I can replace it for 1500, no.

[Rogerborg]

[Bonnie Lad]

Pretty much concur with previous comments.

It's a good service and I'd probably go for it if I lived in a high risk area with a £6k plus value bike

Not on an old kwak though, not worth the $$

[iooi]

[Omega]

The police never seem to be in a rush to pick up tracked cars. I think they use them as bait once they've been stolen. Good for them and other people but no so good for the owner who paid for the service and just wants it back. I don't know if all tracking services are the same but we don't give out location details to the owner directly, only to the police.

I can only imagine bikes being worse.

[pompousporcup...]

a guy at work has it free with the purchase of his new 959 panigale. He told me he'd moved his bike across a car park to try keep it out of sight of the main road and got a call from them before he'd even managed to park it up again. Must have been 50 metres or so. Make of that what you will.

I doubt i'd bother with something that wasn't worth a decent bit of money. Probably easier to get an agreed value on your current policy should some twat nick it

[Rogerborg]

[Polarbear]

I'm of the opinion if I had my Trophy stolen I'd rather have the cash/new bike than get it back after it had been abused by whoever. That's what I pay fully comp for.
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[NJD]

[NJD]

Phoned up the local Kwak (main stealer).

Hour and a half labour cost is £90 so about £390 to get the unit fitted and then whatever method of subscription the user would want. Could probably get it for £400 all in if I went the pay monthly way.

Downside is the months wait to (a) get into their workshop (b) get a Bike Trac unit as they're on back order.

Sunny season is tief season? Seems I'm not the only one thinking down the same lines.

Funny thing is outside their shop is a known tief spot also.

Seems I've got a bit of time to think about it sensibly. Looks like I'll be braving the ride in and out until I make up my mind.
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[Rogerborg]

Paying £500+ up front on the off chance that it might get your £1000 of bike back less the damage inflicted on it doesn't make economic sense unless you think it's close to certain to be nicked.

If I were that worried about it happening, I'd remove that source of stress from my life, would be the honest answer.
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[NJD]

[Rogerborg]

I normally bag on cheap tracker solutions, but it might make sense for your situation.
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[owl]

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=319037

two fiddy

shame his bike got stolen a few days before he was meant to have it fitted
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[NJD]

Delayed response because life.

For all the reasons pointed out I've decided it's probably sensible to save the dollar and leave the idea as just that.

Selling it is probably about the only way to not get a motorbike stolen but then, IMO, that's another win for them. Why should I miss out because some scrote gets bored at school? Although at the same time loosing out on that potential sale makes them win further, no? I'd probably not sell on the private market in the current age anyway because I look at all these adverts and think they're nothing but a gold mine for thieves given any average joe can ask "where you located mate?" and then easily pin point the bike from there.. not entirely relevant from thread and possibly way over thinking but is easily done.

Anyway, as much as loosing a bike would suck is getting a crumpled mess back in return really a great idea. I said earlier at best you'd be looking at a snapped steering lock and some wires cut. If anything all you get back is an expensive repair bill after someones had their fun and left it in a ditch, ney thanks.

I've got, I think, some decent security on the bike and if their inspired enough by London byklyf to have a pop with a grinder in a public open space then crack on. After looking at the woman in the news with the black eye and all fucked up of a car jacking I was like "what's the point for a lump of metal?"

Probably should be glad I sold the Arrow since that thing was as light as a feather and could probably be stolen by a wet fart given the cheaply made steering lock and easy to get to wires. Least I've got something to race them against on their mobility scooters now, remember the time I come across two lads on a single moped that raced out of a junction close by where this scootay incident happened and one of them looked at me and I was like "fucks sake please don't come back round on me arse because I can't bloody ride away. "

See what fun and games await.
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[choogh]

Where do you Guys live ????.
I read on the forum tales of disasters, stolen bikes, ground anchors, chains of all types and sizes. SCROTS surveying the area on mopeds for bikes bikes to steal !!! WTF

I own two bikes niether with trackers, nor chains, I park in public (free) parking spaces in the centre of the town and.......NOTHING happens. The damn thing is there when I return, steering lock off and away I go..

As I said above... Where do you Guys live ??? FFS. MOVE....

it's a good job I'm not superstitious, touch wood...else I'm tempting fate now...
Best I Buy a tracker, or chain, or, both.😄
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[linuxyeti]

Blimey you're a paranoid soul, like everything in life if it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen ..

Over the years, I've had some bikes stolen, meh, annoying, but there was only the 1 I really bothered about. I've had a car stolen from the main train station, many moons ago., so, going to a car, may not assuage your sense of dread & worry.

Is some of it my own fault, of course it is, I'm probably far too trusting of other people, but I'd rather be that way.

Even now, I park uptown, outside asda, .... never put the steering lock on, and rarely put a chain on. I've not had a bike stolen for years, perhaps it's down to my choice of bikes

It is annoying when it happens, and, when it does happen, it seems to be as part of a spate of thefts. 1 thing though, if you can avoid claiming on your insurance, then do so, you don't want a claim sitting on your record, same goes really, if you have a scrape, and the other party would like to settle themselves, and not go via insurance, then, consider it at least, as, you avoid the non-fault claim on your records as well.

As for private sales, I've never had any issues, other than those that don't turn up, whether I've been selling a bike or a car.
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[Rogerborg]

[Bonnie Lad]

[linuxyeti]

Well, not anymore haha !! Having said that, I've not tried giving them away yet, either

To be fair, the ones stolen over time, have been ..

Chituma CTM 125
Jinlun JL-250 (That's the one that bothered me)
and a GS500

Oh, and the car, that was a 3ltr Granada !!
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[choogh]

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MORE importantly. Where do YOU live?

There is a lot of bike crime where I live, but I love this city.[/quote]


In the glorious North West.(not MCR or Liverpool). where people, if they break in to your house... leave you something...😂😂😂😂
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[skatefreak]

Tl:dr. Boss has it on his mint (actually mint, <3,000 mile) 08 R1.
Has every trick bit going, looks/sounds/IS the dogs rollocks that thing and it's his pride and joy. Gets maybe a hundred miles a year if that.

From what I hear it works spectacularly well, even in his garage his phone is notifying him in moments that it's moving if he doesn't disarm it...
For a bike like that and when you have a lot of money then yeah. I get it.

For anything less... if it could be replaced or isn't worth a vast amount then I wouldn't bother...