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rpsmith79
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PostPosted: 08:50 - 21 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, the guy is talking shit........ move along

It is not unheard of in the car world to buy a base spec model car, and then fit the engine/drivetrain from a higher spec car, and still have it registered as a base model................. all illegally of course, but at the end of the day, it's still a fucked about with base model, not sure how possible this is with bikes though

Though i do know a guy from way back when who after writing off his Escort RS Turbo, bought it back from the insurance company, and proceeded to fit all the salvageable parts into a base spec Escort 1.3 i believe, made a really good job of it as the shell was immaculate, but it's still not an RS Turbo

Unless of course the guy has actually bought an R3 that some guy has stuck an R6 sticker on it, lol
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PostPosted: 08:50 - 21 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask him if he likes mylar balloons.
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 21 Jun 2017    Post subject: Re: Registering as a different bike Reply with quote

Valerian95 wrote:
There's this guy at work who told me he had an R6

Imagine that.

Valerian95 wrote:
on an 05 plate

What's the rest of the plate number?

https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/

Does it matter if you win an argument with him? If he gets tugged or stacks it, it's only him that will suffer. His insurance will pay out to any 3rd parties, then recover from him if they spot the fraud.

You know folk used to ride 'restricted' R6s at 17 under the old system, right? Deep breaths, this too shall pass.
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 21 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

When a bike is registered with DVLA, they register the manufactrer's declared deals, vis make, model, engine cc, colour and VIN number.

There are SOME things on that registratio that may be changed; for example, if you re-paint it, then you can tell them the new colour; if you fit a new engine; you are supposed to tell them the new engine number; if you bore out the egne, you are supposed to tell them the new cc...

DVLA will usually, these days actually request 'evidence' to support the requested change of details; usually a letter headed letter from a reputable mechanic or authority like an owners club... which they may or may not accept... if they don't then they can 'suspend' registration pending a VIC or Vehicle Identity Check at a VOSA inspection center.

When Snowie registered the change of colour on her 125, from 'Red' to 'NOT black' that actually looks black, we sent them a photo of the thing, showing it was, well, NOT red, with the paint tin she used to pant it on the tank, with the label saying 'Dark Aubergine' clearly in view....THEY decided t should be 'Purple' and were happy enough.

I THINK they would be a little less accomodating if I was to try and change teh registration of my 1981 'Montesa' motorcycle, and tell them, "Err, actually its now a HONDA.. cos Honda bought the Montesa' a year after Montesa made it.....

They would similarly not accept me trying to change the registration declaration of the model of my CB Seven-Fifty, trying to tell them that NOW it was actually a VF1000!! No matter how many stickers I stuck on the thing saying VF1000, or how much actual VF1000 bits I grafted into it....

As far as DVLA would be concerned, my CB Seven-Fifty is, was and will forever remain a CB Seven-Fifty... I ould put a VF100 engine in t; I could put VF100 bodywork on it, but as long as it had the CB Seven-Fifty frame, and the VIN number of that CB Seven-Fifty frame... It is and will remain a CB Seven-Fifty!

Could be a heavily modified CB Seven-Fifty, that might have a Suzuki GSXR engine in it; could have solid strut hard-tail conversion, a coffin tank, ape hangers and Harley fat boy forks, with Kawasaki wheels, Yamaha brakes, and Triumph body-work... matters not a jot. As far as registration is concerned, it remains a Honda CB Seven-Fifty! At least until the number of mods beg an SVA under the points system, at which point the whole thing would require re-registration, which is slightly more involved than a simple VIC... and they would then decide whether enough original manufacturers donor model remained to still call it a 'Honda CB Seven-Fifty' and if not; ask me to offer a my own makers name and model, say "Teflonian" for make, and "Mark One Mistake" for model, to enter on the NEW registration.

So..... Your 23 year old college, COULD have a full unrestricted category A motorcycle licence; IF he passed his motorcycle tests before he was 19 under the 'old' rules, when testing on a 125 would have awarded him a full unrestricted A licence, with 2 year, auto expiring 33bhp power probation, that would have lapsed over two years ago.. he wouldn't have been old enough to have gained an unrestricted 'A' straight off the stops via DAS, under the pre 2013 3DL rules, as he'd not have been over 21 to be eligible. Already being 19 when 'new' rules came in, he could have tested for A2, at 19, and by 'accelerated access' been eligible to test for unrestricted 'A' at any time after he'd held that two-years, without waiting until he was 24, so could STILL have an unrestricted A-category licence, and NOT need be hampered by A2 licence restrictions...

But degree of bollox in the story would tend to suggest he probably doesn't even have ANY bike licence!

As to the R6.. no; absolutely NO way, no Chance no HOW, you can legally ride one on an A2 restricted licence.. it is far outside of the limitations to BE restricted.. whether an insurance company would quibble that; whether they would request proof or restriction; whether he could blag that with some sort of Pady Cert? Who knows.. some don't even ask for a cert of restriction, there is no such thing recognized let alone required by law! And they are often more than happy to take your money, especially if the premium they ask is a "You gotta be daft if you pay this" one! But that wouldn't make it legal, and he'd still be at risk of challenge and prosecution by plod for riding other than in accordance if challenged... and onus of proof would be on him to prove his innocence, rather than plod to prove his guilt, if manufacturers declared specs are outside of those that meet A2 restrictions or that fall within the restrict able limits.

Bottom line? Who knows, who cares! He may have a bike, he may ot. He may have a licence, he may not. Folk try ad make out that YZF-R125's are R1's by diddling the decals! What licence he may or may not have, what bike he may or may not have, remains speculation; all you can be sure of, is that HE thinks that an R6 is a bike that you aught to be as much in awe of as he obviously is!

Smile and nod... do you REALLY care? Whether he has any licence, or any bike, or if he has an R6 or if he may be riding an R6 he doesn't actually have a licence for? Do you actually care how full of shit he may or may not be? (Provided he doesn't T-Bone you on the ruddy thing!) Treat him like a fruit machine, and heed the warning "For entertainment purposes only" next to the slot in the front!
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 21 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Valerian95 wrote:
But suppose he took the route of buying an R3 and replaced engine wth that of an R6 (it hasn't been directly said here but I'll assume from what Tef said that's the only possible way he could be referring to).The R3 was only introduced in 2015 specifically to suit the new A2 category so how the hell could there be a 2005 plate with it?


Because he's talking horse shit.................. just let him carry on living in his little make believe world and carry on living your own life and not give him another thought
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 21 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dafuq are you doing giving him your details? Best case, he's a liar, worst case, he's a liar and a fraudster. Laughing

Valerian95 wrote:
I am angry because the initial elaborate story continued with him saying he insured it for 400 quid third party fire and theft which shocked me because I couldn't get a quote under 1600 for a £5000 cbr650f. Said he "knew" a broker and he could get me a quote for 500 max.

Yes, you could doubtless get a much lower quote if you lied to an insurer about what kind of bike yours was.

But how does his fraud actually change your situation?

Wish him the best of luck - he'll need it if he crashes it or gets tugged.

Assuming that there's any truth to it. R6s seem to inspire fertile, febrile imaginations.
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 21 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are your panties all twisted up over some prick at work with a bike, and his talk?

Ride your own bike, and get on with your life, and let Mr twat get on with his. Just to give my own opinion here, I've on many occasions found other people I know or work with that have motorbikes to be the most self righteous, full of shit types IMO, or they have been the more boring or annoying people I've known. A few are ok but I'd rather have other stuff in common with work mates or people I know socially than bikes. If someone likes the same music or films or sport, I generally find them easier to get on with or talk to.

Bike and car and even push bikes enthusiasts, can all be very funny fuckers, so I'd rather spend time with or talk to people with totally different interests or hobbies, and sometimes educate myself and learn from them too.

Oh and I'd consider a 1.3 Escort mk4 to be just as good as a real RST if built to the same spec. If the bike or car is for riding, not showing or selling, it doesn't matter a jot if it's a fake. I'd be just as happy with a replica if it was well put together and drove well. There's no need for smugness of the your car isn't real but mine is mentality at all!
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 21 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

An R6 and an R3 do not have "interchangable" lumps. You could do it, but that frames getting a mertric fuckton of changes.

He's talking shit. If it actually exists, one check of the VIN will fuck him over.
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PostPosted: 08:31 - 22 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Valerian95 wrote:
I haven't outright called him a liar

Oh, you should. It's hilarious - I promise you that.
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