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Video of the day goes to Rog.
Nasty. ____________________ Riding: Yamaha MT-09 Tracer Occasionally Riding: 08 Suzuki SV650, Potato: 2011 Yamaha YBR Custom.
Used to ride: 2015 Yamaha MT-09 Tracer (smidsy) 09 Triumph Street Triple (P/X'd) 08 Yamaha YBR (Sold)
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Enduro Numpty wrote: | The "two wheeled motorist" I referred to, IMO put himself and his pillion in more danger than any amount of hi-viz vests will compensate for by leaving himself completely exposed to the potential incompetence of the car drivers in front and behind. |
Totally agree. However, this individual may be a crap and unsafe rider but he would be with or without his hi-viz - it's no reason to write off hi viz as a Bad Thing.
Enduro Numpty wrote: | If you kill a pedestrian or a cyclist on the road because the light conditions aren't quite to your liking is it their fault because they're not dressed to compensate for the conditions? |
If said pedestrian or cyclist is dead, I'm sure they will gain great comfort from beyond the grave knowing that they were in the right and that the accident which killed them wasn't their fault. Same applies to a smidsy'ed biker.
Of course all road users should keep their eyes open and I shouldn't feel the need to wear a hi viz vest (and by the way, we're not talking 'polite' vests here, which was the original subject of the thread and which I'm sure nobody here condones). Llike pepparami and JZ, wearing hi-viz doesn't change the way I ride, I don't assume it will protect me against visually impaired morons, and it doesn't affect my enjoyment of riding one iota. So if wearing hi-viz might help one half-blind granny to spot me and avoid converting me into a Maris Piper, why would I not do so? Because I might not look very cool, and other bikers might think I'm a wanker? ____________________ KC100->CB100N->CB250RS--------->DL650AL2->R1200RS->R1250RS |
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Freddyfruitbat wrote: |
If said pedestrian or cyclist is dead, I'm sure they will gain great comfort from beyond the grave knowing that they were in the right and that the accident which killed them wasn't their fault. Same applies to a smidsy'ed biker.
Of course all road users should keep their eyes open and I shouldn't feel the need to wear a hi viz vest (and by the way, we're not talking 'polite' vests here, which was the original subject of the thread and which I'm sure nobody here condones). Llike pepparami and JZ, wearing hi-viz doesn't change the way I ride, I don't assume it will protect me against visually impaired morons, and it doesn't affect my enjoyment of riding one iota. So if wearing hi-viz might help one half-blind granny to spot me and avoid converting me into a Maris Piper, why would I not do so? Because I might not look very cool, and other bikers might think I'm a wanker? |
This is what I was trying (and failing) to get across. <insert another off topic rant about mandatory eye tests> I'm not trying to shift the blame, I just know that a lot of bloody idiots drive along there, from dawdling tourists too busy looking at sheep to drunken locals trying to drive their way home from the pubs along there because the odds of the police being around are minimal, not to mention the gypsies, cyclists, hikers and canoeists parking in the road). Yes, I understand that it won't protect anyone when push comes to shove - but for me, if it gives me a slightly better chance of not ending up dead, I'll happily take it.
I'll crawl back in to my hole now.
*edit* also to iterate, I'm also talking general hi-vis, not "polite..." I always thought that was a horse thing tbh - never noticed it on bikers... |
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Back to the 'Polite vest' theme again - some empirical data on the effect of a cyclist wearing one :
"Over several months, one cyclist wore seven different outfits on his daily 50km commute between Berkshire and outer London. Using an ultrasonic distance sensor he recorded how much space passing motorists gave him, logging data from 5,690 vehicles. The outfits ranged from racing kit to a vest with ‘novice cyclist’ printed on the back. Some of the outfits included high-visibility jackets and vests, while another bore the legend ‘POLICE’, along with the slogans ‘move over’ and ‘camera cyclist’. Finally, for comparison, one similar high-vis jacket bore the word ‘POLITE’.
One letter made a big difference. Walker’s results found that most of the different outfits had virtually no impact on how close the motorists got, bar one. Only the mock-up police jersey encouraged motorists to give the cyclist a wider berth.
‘It’s striking that driver behaviour to POLICE was so different to POLITE given the key word differed by just one letter,’ Walker says. ‘Not only was passing much closer on average with POLITE, but subjectively the rider reported feeling much more at risk, and encountered overt acts of aggression from several drivers." ____________________ KC100->CB100N->CB250RS--------->DL650AL2->R1200RS->R1250RS |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 240 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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