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Sharkman
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 23 Jun 2017    Post subject: CB350SG Rebuild Reply with quote

I have been given a CB350SG 1986 model in pieces and am doing a restoration and rebuild.
I have had the frame blasted and powder coated, as well as the swing arm and other matching parts.
I stripped the instrument panel to respray the bracket.
The rubber cushions on the instruments are perished and need replacement. These have been discontinued and not available.
Does anyone have any ideas as to where I can get replacements?
All help and advice is welcome.

I also have an original workshop manual, which I intend copying at some point. It will be expensive to do this, so will charge a nominal fee for anyone that wants a great copy. It will be in pdf format.
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 23 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pictures or it didn't happen!
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 23 Jun 2017    Post subject: Re: CB350SG Rebuild Reply with quote

Sharkman wrote:
I have been given a CB350SG 1986 model in pieces and am doing a restoration and rebuild.

Ask these guys what parts are available; https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 23 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
Pictures or it didn't happen!

The even more over-weight, frame round the motor, to make working o it even harder, four spoke wheel... FOUR SPOKE.. that is just 'wrong'... Super-Dream? The one that sat on dealers floors un-sold for half a decade until they started giving them away?

In early 1988, one of the instructors turned up on one, having dropped his BMW in for service... we all thought it was the curtecy bike, until he admitted he'd had a test-ride on the then brand new 'Pan Euro, demonstrator and, decided to do a deal on one trading n the Bimer... which almost broke down when they told him the length of the waiting list for them on 'pre-order' as only the dealer demo bikes were actually in the country..... so they GAVE him the ruddy CB350 curtacy bike so he had wheels whilst he waited for the 'Pan! Lol!

I THINK that if some-one is daft enough or mad enough or misguided enough to actually admit to BUY one thirty years on, more suggest aspirations towards restoring it.... we can take their word... Some things, we REALLY don't need pictures of! Lol!
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 23 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit cruel Teff. Stick the 400 motor in their and at least it will have the power it was designed for. Even you must admit that frame does look attractive. Any number of alternative wheels if you are super picky.
Reliable enough, handles no worse than any other of the spindly forked 80's things, if you can't find a ton of NOS parts for them I'll be very surprised.
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 23 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

He did say he'd been given it...
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 23 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked them for the looks, it's the Harris Magnum of the middleweight twin world! Laughing

I agree with jjdugen though, in that a re-built one with tweaked suspension and brakes, and wheels could be cool, if you also slot in a gas flowed high compression CB400T engine, maybe you can bore them out bigger too?

A 50bhp motor would make one work quite well with the right other mods to make it handle too.

I wouldn't even mind seeing a big capacity Yam LC motor in one too, but the LC brigade won't like that at all! Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 23 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

IIRC there was also a 450 version although that may have been a different (older) motor...
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 23 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpineandy wrote:
IIRC there was also a 450 version although that may have been a different (older) motor...


That would be the CB450DX, with absolutely no styling to speak of, just a bored out 400N donk and a few sharper edges, a sort of 'super' Super Dream (it might've had a rear disc as well, whoopee!)

At least the 350 had the contrasting coloured trellis stylee frame and the wrap around seat.

Looked the part, never really delivered, but you could make something vaguely interesting out of it.
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 24 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

jjdugen wrote:
Bit cruel Teff. Stick the 400 motor in their and at least it will have the power it was designed for. Even you must admit that frame does look attractive. Any number of alternative wheels if you are super picky.
Reliable enough, handles no worse than any other of the spindly forked 80's things, if you can't find a ton of NOS parts for them I'll be very surprised.

Negligible difference in power between the 400N, the 350 & the 450, would disincline me to bother TBH. Despite the Haris inspired frame, which I have to confess did look quite trick in 1988, it's a Twin-shock lardy-dream roundly derided for being even more lardy!

The odd four-spoke wheels, that do look rather like a pre-school childs drawing, asside, I actally thought they were quite a stylish middle-weight when I was 17; they just were a rather harder than usual to work on Super-Dream, that like most, had almost zero market value.. even in the dalers, where most that came into the country did end up curtecy bikes or despatch rentals and the like.

Given the current 'Nostalgia' value of 250 or 400N's, that have that more traditional styling, and were a memorable bike of thier era, i the 250 learner days, so do seem to command quite strong 'classic' prices if restored, the unloved 350, is probably one to avoid as any sort of project, as it was so ucommon, and parts wont be as easy to secure; they were harder to work on, ad most will have lead hard lives as unloved budget hacks for the last thirty odd years, and wont appeal to that same 'nostalgia' market or command a value anything like what renovating one is likely to cost.

Which is probably a pitty as they are 'interesting', and they probably weren't a 'bad' bike.. and certaily by contemprary stadards, I suspect that they aren't as lardy as lore suggests, it's just that the two smokes of that era were that much lighter and that much more spritely..

Compared to today's built down to a price emissions strangled lighter middle-weight offerings like say a CBR300 or even a CB500, I suspect one would likely offer quite good account of itself, on decent tyres and springs; and likely be a lot more interesting to ride as well as comfy!

Still doesn't make one an immediately attractive resto project though!
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PostPosted: 02:24 - 24 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaft wrote:
Alpineandy wrote:
IIRC there was also a 450 version although that may have been a different (older) motor...
That would be the CB450DX, ...Looked the part, never really delivered, but you could make something vaguely interesting out of it.

I was only mentioning it because the motor may be 'swap-able' and worth swapping with the 350..., not for any other reason.
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 24 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get the feeling that the 450DX has a constipated engine to go with its styling.

A 400N engine built properly, all flowed and balanced with a skimmed head and a pair of tasty FCR flatslides and a good tweakable ignition system is where I'd be looking. 43bhp as std, and they were close to a 110mph bike, making 400/4's look very wheezy and asthmatic.

A better front end and some damag or astralite wheels would be good, and then a good weight reduction programme junking everything you can is where I'd be.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 25 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

there was a CB450S, same frame as the 350 with a 450 motor from the factory, as usual they imported the wrong version to us in the uk, where they gave us the 450DX which was from the same Brazilian factory they made those CG125BR's!

https://moto.zombdrive.com/images/honda-cb450s-1.jpg
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 25 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

This!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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