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Wonko The Sane |
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Posted: 16:56 - 23 Jun 2017 Post subject: Is it always hard replacing your first proper bike? |
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Had a ZZR600 for the past four years, ridden it daily to work and back and absolutely loved it.
wrist issues and the gearbox failing have caused me to sell it to someone who's got time and a garage to fix it and I've ended up buying a Hornet.
It's a nice bike but riding it you could be sat on a bar-stool playing a racing arcade game for how the hornet responds and feels, just not involved in riding it at all somehow unlike the ZZR where any movement to the bars had a positive response.
Is it just being very used to one type of bike and I just need to get some miles on the Hornet (used it all week so far) to get used to the Hornet's ways? ____________________ Looking to pass your CBT / Bike tests in Bury Lancashire? try www.focusridertraining.co.uk Would recommend.
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Posted: 17:06 - 23 Jun 2017 Post subject: |
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On paper they're similar bikes in the power n torque stakes with the hornet the lighter of the two. You'd think with the flatter bars the hornet would also feel more nimble.
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Posted: 17:23 - 23 Jun 2017 Post subject: Re: Is it always hard replacing your first proper bike? |
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Wonko The Sane wrote: | Is it always hard replacing your first proper bike? |
I have no idea; my first 'proper' bike, as in the first one that actually had two wheels, no pedals and actually 'ran'... I still have!
As a comper, not an every-day, helped it not get (too!) run into the ground to soon, but it was also only 4 years old when I got it, and in the trials world, having the latest tackle, particularly at club level, doesn't count for so much; it did get rendered obsolete by the 'new-generation' of mono-shock wonders, soon after; but they invented the T-Shock class, within 5-years, in which, as almost the last of the breed, it was always going to be on the par...
Notions of trading up or upgrading have come and gone over the decades; and in the late 90's I pondered one of the new water-cooled, mono-shock Montesa's, that were then the Championship machine of the era, thanks to Lampkin; But couldn't really justify the cost of one, and was daunted by the complexity. Idea was re-kindled in the early naughtiest, when I tackled the clubman course on I think it was a Sherco 200, which made me stop and think just how hard I was making things for myself on the old dinasaur, and start pricing up things like 320 Scorpa's.. but err.. yeah... sort of had that 'Pang' that even if I got a modern rock-hoppa, I couldn't see myself let go of the old Cota, and couldn't compete in two bikes at one event! So ended up joining a 'Classic' club and sticking with the old dinasaur! And expect it'll still be hanging around in the shed at my wake!
Been torn down and rebuilt and 'restored' so many times over the years, I can almost strip it like a squaddie with a Lee-Enfield, blind-fold, in my sleep!! And if I totaleld up all the receipts over the years, for replacement mudguards, and handlebars, wheel truing and spoking, sprockets, carburettor inlet rubers, and the HUDREDS of ruddy clutch ad brake lever's I've broken... PROBABLY could have bought a brand new 315R for the same money! But what the heck....
Back to top.. answer is YES probably is always hard to replace your first... which is why I never have been able to! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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No, not always. I only found it hard the first time I replaced my first proper bike. On the second occasion I replaced my first proper bike, it was easier. It was always going to be harder the first time I replaced my second proper bike though. The second time I replaced my third proper bike was quite tricky, but I managed. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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It was hard getting rid of my first bike although only a year old it was that fucked nobody wanted it ____________________ Beer, It's the reason I get up every afternoon
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Nope, even if you buy the same model of bike they all feel a bit different from the set up the wear etc.
All my CBRs have felt a bit different to each other.
My latest one gives me pins and needles in my fingers. My old ones didn't. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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jjdugen wrote: | Trouble is, your first bike was actually the best of the sport / tour group, (of that generation). They really don't (can't) make 'em like that anymore.
Me? I've bought and sold all sorts, the one that stays is a '97 carby blade, a bit more go, no electronic complications, robust and stupidly reliable. Not the sharpest pencil for a while, fits me like a glove, makes me smile, 'nuff said. |
I think that's part of the problem, it's been an amazing bike.
I'm enjoying the Hornet, just finding it a bit vague and I have to think about where I'm putting my bodyweight to get it to corner where the ZZR kind of told me where to put it.
Had I bought an Enfield I'd probably be enjoying the novelty too much to notice, but I didn't. ____________________ Looking to pass your CBT / Bike tests in Bury Lancashire? try www.focusridertraining.co.uk Would recommend.
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sold my zzr... bought it back after a year... won't be making that mistake again ____________________ CBT - 17/09/12 * Theory - 23/10/12 * Mod1 - 05/03/13 * Mod2 - 25/03/13 * BOSH!
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Having jumped in with both feet to the most powerful thing I could afford immediately after (before, actually) I passed my test, I guess my experience is a bit different to those who worked their way steadily up in power and capacity (although I'd guess a ZZR600 isn't exactly a slouch compared with the much older GPz Turbo I had). But what I went to next* was very different - the first GSXR750. There was a bit of a wrench and a touch of sadness in letting the turbo go, but the GSXR was also a great bike, so I didn't miss the Kwak too much. It did require a different approach to how you rode it, but as everything on the handling front was generally much better, and it's outright performance was similar, it was no bad thing. I did actually enjoy the experience of it being different, and have for most of the other bikes I've owned since.
*Actually, the H2 came before the GSXR, but that was just the fairground ride from hell and I still had the Turbo. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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My first big bike is still with me, that is the first big bike that I purchased myself and wasn't leant. ____________________ CB125>CG125>GN125>ER5>K100RS>R1100RS>K100RS
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