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What Ste said
A group of us off the forum have been to Santa Pod a few times for RWYB. It's not that far from you so just take whatever bike you have there for a day and see if you enjoy it. Do that before you start spending time and money building anything. Take the time to talk to people who are regulars (it will be obvious) and see what they are running.
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I would do this. You'll get talking to other riders who have started this way and are trying to improve on their times through launch skills and tuning, and be able to learn a bit from them. It's a very expensive thing to do seriously, so I reckon small steps and an easy learning curve are the way to go.
What base bike are you thinking of starting with? One of the GPZ900s? I couldn't say for sure, but you don't see many on the strip (or never used to back when I was interested in this), and I suspect it might be because they're a bit too fragile? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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| thx1138 |
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I did a couple of RWYB on my Fazer. Was good fun.
https://s13.postimg.org/gy8fnlubr/santa_pod.jpg
would be much more fun to block book a strip with a club and get many runs per hour, rather than the endless queuing. The queuing in the bike lane is okay, get to chat to everyone, but by the afternoon I usually sit in the stands and watch. |
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Hi
Done a bit.
Mostly in the UK it is bracket racing. It isn't the ultimate time that wins, it is getting as close to the target time for your group as possible, without beating that target time (which breaks you out into the next group, which you will be pretty much at the bottom of).
GPZ might well be OK being fairly long. But if you want to build a drag bike then probably start with something with plenty of spare parts available.
All the best
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GPZ might well be OK being fairly long. But if you want to build a drag bike then probably start with something with plenty of spare parts available.
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I thought the GPZ900 had issues with eating valve seats? Might not be the ideal candidate for constantly thrashing down the strip if that were the case? IIRC, you can fit a ZZR1200 motor though, which might make parts more obtainable too (that's just a guess). ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Hi
Problem with building a drag bike from an old bike is how long you will be thrashing it, and how rapidly you decide to tune it and turn it into a grenade, at which point you rapidly go through spare parts!
At one meet we were at a buy blew up his old Triumph. To the extent that the crankshaft needed to be picked up off the ground.
As far as I know the GPZ900s main fault was an appetite for cam chains every 20k or so. Another expense was diaphragms in the CV carbs (but more because at the time they cost an absolute fortune). Not sure on valves, but if in a reasonable sensible state of tune then no real extra wear on them, and thrashing up a drag strip isn't going to do enough miles to wear the seats out (I did a fair few meets on my old GSXR1100, plus a few top speed runs - doubt over the years it did anything like 500 miles).
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| Kickstart wrote: | Not sure on valves, but if in a reasonable sensible state of tune then no real extra wear on them, and thrashing up a drag strip isn't going to do enough miles to wear the seats out |
It seems to be quite commonly known if you have a Google around. Thing is, if you're starting with a bike that has already had a couple of tens of thousands of miles put on it through road use...
Unless you get really serious and start replacing valve seats (is that a thing?). But then you're starting to get into ever deeper expense. From what I've seen over the years though, it's something that drag racing does to some people - they start off for a bit of fun, and before they know it they're selling the house to fund an extra couple of tenths off their times Maybe because they blow a motor, decide to rebuild it, then think, "well, while I'm about it, might as well tune this and strengthen that..."
The GSXR1100 engine; a much more proven unit than the GPZ900 (?) which might be fine if you just happen to have one knocking around that you don't mind risking, but I can't really see the point of drag racing (as opposed to once or twice up the strip for the hell of it) if you don't care about improving your times. It is generally a competitive sport, after all. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Well, anyway, might as well use what you've got to see if it's all for you. But..you have got a house to sell, right? You know, just in case you enjoy it?  ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 90 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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