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Are motorcycle lessons overpriced? |
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No |
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Unsure |
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Posted: 09:07 - 06 Jul 2017 Post subject: |
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The counterpoint specifically for bikes is that you can ride around at 70mph+ on the least capable bikes and the most dangerous roads essentially indefinitely without ever passing a test. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Posted: 15:36 - 06 Jul 2017 Post subject: Re: overthinking |
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pinkyfloyd wrote: | Tests need to be cut back? That is the most tarded thing I have heard, I have just done my car test, no way was that strict enough for me to be let lose on the roads. An emergency stop and one reversing manoeuvre was all I done. Everything I done was the instructor was practical real world. Even the set manoeuvres I will be doing leaving or returning to my house.
As for the comment about parents car, Again, pointless comment, not everyone has that luxury, and more people use schools than parents. |
Thing's I wasn't ready to drive (a cage) when I passed my test, I was ready to ride a bike as I had done a year on a 125. I do believe learning to drive isn't thorough enough, at no point during my lessons or on the actual test itself did we do an emergency stop , but the motorcycle test's overkill especially if you have prior experience (mainly referring to Mod 1).
Baffler186 wrote: | KTMScotland wrote: | I want a motorcycle licence like you wouldn't believe. | So did I. And that was why I forked out whatever the asking price was.
Let's get this into perspective. ~ £700, plus a few quid extra if you need to do re-tests. Lets call it a grand. You pay a grand and you get to ride whatever bike you can afford for the rest of your days. You also get to cut through traffic, ride in most bus lanes, park in places that cars can't fit, and often park for free.
Sounds like a bargain to me. |
Pre-Jan' 2013 you'd have been able to get your restricted license (assuming you had a 125) for around the price of a CBT, so it looks a bit of a rip now. I appreciate what people are saying that being taught to drive in a parents car isn't exactly the norm', but it's still a low-cost option. The equivalent in the bike world's buying a big bike, insuring it (which isn't straight forward) and being unable to ride it unless an instructor turns up with a radio. |
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Posted: 18:25 - 06 Jul 2017 Post subject: |
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Yup, for the A2 license you're going to need a suitable bike, schools won't rent you one unless you pay them for a load of lessons which you might not need or if you buy your own A2 bike then you're going to have to get it to the test centre some how.
Plus 17 year olds don't want to wait a few months before they do their CBT. |
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Alpineandy wrote: | As mentioned by others, the ability to ride a 125 on a motorway after getting your A1, isn't much of an incentive.
If they changed it to an A1 = up to 250 cc (somewhere in the 20/25hp range) then I can see more people doing it. |
I don't think it worked though, it was only when the rules were changing did the eternal L platers rush to get a license, I know one guy who despite 7 years on a CBT got his license on the final day of the old rules. I get your point though, and I believe there are stats that backup women are failing more having to take their test(s) on a big bike.
Ste wrote: | Kentol750 wrote: | There was a massive loophole.....cbt @16 on ped. @17 get geared 125 and do test. 2 years later auto upgrade to 200bhp supervise of choice with no real time on road. |
That was never a loop hole, that's how it was meant to work, you have two years experience and away you go.
Cool kids jumped on a 600cc or 1,000cc straight after doing their test.
The significant difference between that licensing system and what we've got now is that cops didn't know about the 33bhp rules. The bike cop who stopped 17 year old me on my ZX6R thought it was the biggest bike I could ride until I was 21. Errrr yeah, that's right officer. |
Do they know now? I'm not sure I 100% understand the rules, I couldn't look at a bike and tell you if that conformed to the power to weight ratio. Back in the day it was a bit stupid how it was basically 'restrict' a bike to 33bhp then off you go doing 150mph down the motorway.
They should simplify it, 250cc A1, 500cc A2 (still at 19), unrestricted A (at 21 like before). If someone manages to wrestle a 2-stroke race replica away from a collector then good luck to them |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 292 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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