Insuring 600CC with A1 licence

[CivilDrone]

Morning
I was wondering if its possible to insure a motorbike 600cc with A1 licence
Planning to borrow mates motorbike to go DAS but don't want to go through the Course as I don't feel the need
Wonder if there is an insurer which allows me to ride 600CC with the DVSA examiner present (module 1 &2)
I wont be riding on the road at any other time
Has anyone had anything similar?
Regards

[arry]

Bkesure on provisional. It's your only insurance option. You'll need to own the bike and be the registered keeper nudge nudge wink wink.

[Rogerborg]

If you were talking about buying your own bike and insuring that, maybe, but as arry points out, you're going to have to spin some tales. If you don't have a prang it won't matter, but then you wouldn't have needed insurance anyway. If you do have a prang, the truth might out.

And bear in mind that the costs of being held hostage by a single provider may outweigh much of the savings from bypassing a training school.

Don't be under any illusions that cancelling after a month or so will get you most of the money back either, or that you can get "monthly" insurance and cancel it without penalty at any time.

Sorry to Tef out on you, but the cartel doesn't operate with this sort of wheeze in mind.
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[CivilDrone]

Is A1 licence provision?
I have done module 1 and 2 for them and pretty sure they are not
Regards

[arry]

[Kentol750]

To me that reads like;
' I'm too stupid to ring a training school and see if they'd do me a deal, so I'm ready for an insurance company to shaft me instead.'[/quote]
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[Alpineandy]

[pinkyfloyd]

[Kentol750]

Pinky has made a good point. Theory needed, and mod 1 and 2 need to be done before it runs out.
Maybe if you tell bcf where you are, an instructor on here can give you some local advice/prices.
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[M.C]

Just my personal opinion. If you've done Mod 1 on your 125 (and passed obviously ), and can practice on private land with a big bike then go for it. Hopefully that practice will give you a feel for the clutch and enough respect for the weight that Mod 2 shouldn't be a problem.

However I am inclined to agree that particularly if you're shit hot, a training school should put you through on a short DAS course. I was just shit (well when it came to Mod 1) and it cost me £330. I'm willing to bet you'll pay a similar amount to insure a bike which isn't yours.

[M.C]

[pinkyfloyd]

[stevo as b4]

As an instructor, do you actively encourage young 17-18yr old riders to do A1, A2, A knowing that the system is bollocks and as an instructor you would very quickly know if someone could ride a bike or not for shit. Also you must know that apart from the twat on here who kept spazzing up on A2 tests, that if you had a rider come through your school that could ride a CG125 like they'd had 20years of experience, that they could just as easily ride the same tests on a Fireblade. If you can ride a bike like a natural it don't matter what the bike is.

If you see a bumbling fool on a 125 making a right old mess of it, bearing in mind your job is to make money out of people, do you tell them honestly that bikes arnt their thing and it's a waste of time? Or do you encourage them, advise lots of lessons and tell them to come back for A2 because you think they'd be great on a bigger bike?

And finally why is machine control not more important in training. I mean they have to swerve a 125 through some cones at 25mph or something on test?

If it was about machine control I'd want my students to have natural balance and ability, and be able to wrap the bike around their finger to make it do whatever they want. Im not quite talking Gary Rothwell, but someone that has great control and loads of confidence, and is not one bit scared of the bike.

[pinkyfloyd]

[Kentol750]

Stevo, you make a good point. Some instructors DO just teach people to pass the test. And take all the money they can from it. And, that's what happens in all walks of life. Pass test, well done, off you go.
Motorcycling, as we know isn't as simple as that...
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[pinkyfloyd]

My last 2 students had their mod 2 prep yesterday (we call it day 3) to get ready for their tests today (we are one of the few schools that test on different days than the training). By lunchtime we had covered the guts of 70 miles, most of which was country roads and national speed limits. Some of the roads were more challenging in difficulty. After lunch we covered another good 30-40 miles in and around town putting the final polish on for mod 2.

Test day today. One clean sheet, one with 2 rider faults.

Without letting ego get in the way, I am good at what I do. If nerves do not get in the way on test day then they pass with clean sheets or very few faults. So far this year I have picked up 4 mod 2 fails with first attempts. 1 of which was contested and went in our favour, the guy was given a refund. So 3 fails. We have 26 DAS courses booked between now and mid September and this year we have never dropped below 13 courses. We cant book the tests fast enough for demand.

So far this year we've put the guts of 60 new full licence holders on the road. The majority of their mod 2 training was done with me.
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Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[M.C]

[Kentol750]

We've all spoken, OP...how you doin?
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[CivilDrone]

I wish I knew where to begin.. wasn't expecting so much output
For which I am grateful
I have had few practice lessons and feel confident enough on 600cc
I have A1 and a valid Theory
My dilemma now is to insure the bike for the mod 1 and 2
I have booked mod 1 for mid of next month
What I want to try and add myself to my mates insurance policy as a second driver
Not really sure what other options there are

[arry]

[Rogerborg]

[M.C]

[arry]

Run over DVSA Derek; see what do.

[M.C]

[Rogerborg]