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lingeringstin... Trackday Trickster
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Posted: 11:20 - 22 Jul 2017 Post subject: You're screwed |
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My references for this are from my days as a courier which ended over ten years ago now but here's how it was.
No matter where you park a bike some car owner will think it's their right or even duty to have the spot you've parked your bike in. This even extends to motorcycle only parking bays.
Most buildings in London have the right of the pavement in front of or around them, sometimes marked by weird little markers imbedded in the concrete. Even if you could mount the pavement and park there a traffic warden with absolutely no grasp of the English language will be upon you in six seconds.
On urban side streets ignorant halfwits will put out traffic cones or planks on bricks or even signs up claiming the parking space outside their house on a public road. When you see this remove the obstacles, shout abuse in the general direction of the front door, park your bike there and take a photo. Mr or Mrs Retard will undoubtedly come home later and physically move your bike out of their "spot", possibly even knocking it out of the way with his car so that it ends up on it's side on the NO PARKING lines where the traffic wardens will immediately descend upon it. 99% of the time your photographic evidence will make no odds whatsoever when you try to contest the extortionate council parking fines.
In inner London cars used to regularly park sideways in motorcycle bays when I was a courier and it seemed like the generally Stormtrooper attitude of the traffic wardens didn't extend to this sort of behaviour for some reason. Consequently (and completely by an unknown means) when I found cars parked like this they often mysteriously sprouted radiator leaks or punctures. Must be something to do with the pain on the ground that says MOTORCYCLE PARKING ONLY.
In short if you park a bike anywhere in London, and I mean ANYWHERE, it spells disaster or theft, probably both.
But that's just my experience from back in the day, so it may be slightly different now but I doubt it.
As a health and safety note, always carry a really long, very sharp screwdriver as part of your standard motorcycle tool kit for roadside emergencies. |
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If you park on pavement that isn't privately owned you'll get fined sooner or later.
The typical signal for privately owned pavement is pavement lights - the building's basement extends out into the area of the pavement, so that section of pavement is actually within the boundary of a private property deed. Depending on the borough and the property owner, you can park on those lights without a problem. And depending on how enlightened the property owner is, there may even be ground anchors for motorcycles.
Boroughs I've safely parked all day long on private pavement include Islington and Hackney. But in Hackney you can park in any bay, as long as it's perpendicular to the kerb and ideally at the end of the bay. (Though there are exceptions around Hoxton Square.)
Here's an example of pavement lights and ground anchors on St John Street:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5247814,-0.1036021,3a,75y,34.99h,82.19t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sUc1L9WVAH0KUzS7wqOLJdA!2e0!5s20080701T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
I can't speak for any other boroughs. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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A traffic warden told me they will just lift a cover, need to electrify it |
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Andy_Pagin wrote: | I wonder if there's any definition of 'Urban Road' or 'Greater London' in law. |
Urban road is defined in the same section that I linked to, the tl;dr version being anything with a speed limit up to 40mph.
Greater London is "The area comprising the areas of the London boroughs, the City and the Temples".
Commuter_Tim wrote: | As always I'm ready to be corrected, but I believe Rog has pointed out in the past that it is actually an offence to cover your plate at any time, IIRC even on your own driveway. |
Or in a garage. It's a strict liability offence with no exceptions or defences at all that I can see.
I definitely do not secure a cover directly onto the plate with (not obviously) removable cable ties. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I wonder if they do part time traffic wardens jobs in Milton Keynes? I'd be a right cunt ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Posted: 20:56 - 25 Jul 2017 Post subject: Re: You're screwed |
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Well Kradmelder left (presumably to start some sort of ethnic cleansing) so someone had to fill in.
I, for one, Welcome our new racist overlord Hellkat. ____________________ The above post is most likely nonsensical.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 268 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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