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Posted: 16:35 - 27 Jul 2017 Post subject: |
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First it was no petrol/diesel, then it was plug-in hybrids only, now it's all hybrids.
Looks like there's no plan other than to mollify the ecomentals and scupper their tedious legal whinging. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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The solution is so simple.
https://s20.postimg.org/xne6ccbil/Screenshot_2017-07-27_at_17.24.03.png ____________________ Riding: Yamaha MT-09 Tracer Occasionally Riding: 08 Suzuki SV650, Potato: 2011 Yamaha YBR Custom.
Used to ride: 2015 Yamaha MT-09 Tracer (smidsy) 09 Triumph Street Triple (P/X'd) 08 Yamaha YBR (Sold)
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Rogerborg wrote: |
£12,500 and upwards.
InB4 "yahbut, subsidies", we all end up paying for those, and they hide the true cost.
Yamaha have gone verrrry quiet about their long promised electrobikes.
At the moment, and for all the future that I can foresee, electric vehicles are going to remain out of the reach of the Just About Managing. |
My point was in terms of riding a low power electric bike is really good for local town work with short stints of NSL work. My 40~45 mile range is about 30 miles of NSL work with 10~15 miles of under 40mph speed limit riding.
In term of pricing I totally agree. Even with the subsidy it's getting on for twice the price of the petrol alternative. However, as the more people who buy electric vehicles the cheaper they will get, I considered the price to be one worth paying given my situation. ____________________ Bikes: '17 Zero FX ZF6.5, '16 BMW R1200 RS, '12 Triumph Daytona 675 |
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It's the spaceship paradox, or however you term it.
You want to go to mars, so you build a space ship. It launches.
After some time, it is overtaken by Spaceship Number Two, which was built after Number One, and is faster and just better. They used what they learnt.
Spaceship number two is promptly overtaken by number three, which used all the advancements from building number two, and is faster and better.
Ad nauseum.
Point is, we have to start somewhere.
Limiting babies and consumers would be a much larger impact for the environment, but ho-hum.
I think it will likely become Hybrids only, as they convert excess flywheel energy to battery power. I don't see the problem, to be honest.
E-bikes would be fine if licensed and treated as ROAD vehicles. I developed a hatred of them in China because they whipped round pedestrians on them, silently, and were usually driven by the very old or very young... As said above, suicide machines. ____________________ Top cat
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Posted: 10:50 - 28 Jul 2017 Post subject: |
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On whether this will mollify the ecomentals and associated revolting lefties:
Frenchies announce banning new petrodiesels from 2040:
Sadiq Khan wrote: | I welcome the strong leadership the French government has shown by making the decision to end the sale of petrol and diesel cars by 2040. This radical step shames the timid and insufficient response of our own government to the health threat posed by poor air quality. |
Ecomental lawyers ClientEarth wrote: | This is a huge statement of intent from the French government and an example of how we’re likely to see exponential change in the coming years as governments grapple with the necessary changes we have to make for air quality and our climate… These moves should be heeded by other governments and industry, who need to act to protect us from air pollution in our towns and cities and help mitigate climate change. |
UK announce banning new petrodiesels from 2040:
Sadiq Khan wrote: | A half-hearted commitment from Government simply isn’t good enough… The commitment to phase out sales of new diesel cars is welcome, but Londoners suffering right now simply can’t afford to wait until 2040. |
Ecomental lawyers ClientEarth wrote: | The 2040 diesel and petrol ban, while important is a diversionary tactic and doesn’t deal with the public health emergency caused by illegally polluted air, now. |
____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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It's easy to announce things for 23 years in the future primarily because it won't be your (current government's) problem in 2040 any more.
It's very much like energy policy or Airport expansion put a date some time far in the future so it's no longer your problem and becomes somebody else's. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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You OK, bruv? You didn't tell us how China-China-China would have handled it. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Shamelessly stolen from Vice News:
"How do we power all these new cars though? Right now, peak demand for electricity in the UK is 60 gigawatts. The National Grid reckon electric cars could cause peak demand to rise by as much as 8GW by 2030, and 18GW once all cars are electric. Which is quite a lot. By way of comparison, the new nuclear power station at Hinkley Point C will produce a maximum of just over 3GW, and cost about £20 billion to build. We'd need six more of them to cope." |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 309 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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