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PostPosted: 19:37 - 30 Jul 2017    Post subject: NBR: 2008 MX5 Reply with quote

I am looking at part-exing my battered 2009 1.4 Civic Type S.

For a 2008 Mazda MX5 2.0 Sport (hard top, not soft also).

It is very clean, and it drove smoothly, and has full Mazda service history.

The downsides, it is on 80k miles, failed a couple of MOTs with low pads, and a fail for disc wear, and had a few advisories last year for play in ARBs.

I'm going back to have another look at it on Wednesday, the dealer has all bills relating to all the work done to the car, so I intend to look into whether all the advisories were acted on, or have just not been picked up on subsequent MOTs.

Is there anything in particular to look out for. How many miles are these cars good for?
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 30 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check very carefully for rotted sills and arches, or signs of repair.
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PostPosted: 08:27 - 31 Jul 2017    Post subject: Re: NBR: 2008 MX5 Reply with quote

lihp wrote:
How many miles are these cars good for?


We had a company MX5, 2009 though, doubt much different but it was well into the 150k region. Servicing and a clutch, rear wheel bearings and a windscreen. It was passed on to auction when the rear shocks went as it was deemed out of service.

I found it fun BUT slow, however from a 1.4 thats all battered up, it'll be fun times.
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 31 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wouldn't worry about most advisorys, and not old ones on disks and the link.

Rear anti roll bar bushes should be easy enough to do.

That is a mk3 so rust shouldn't be a major issue

Doing the rear wheel bearings is a bit of a git, purely down to one bolt mounting the hub that seizes very easily. If you may have to do it then spray with penetrating oil regularly for a week or two before hand.

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PostPosted: 18:48 - 31 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Check very carefully for rotted sills and arches, or signs of repair.


Does this apply to Mk3 also? I was aware of this on the Mk2 so have avoided them entirely.
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 31 Jul 2017    Post subject: Re: NBR: 2008 MX5 Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
lihp wrote:
How many miles are these cars good for?


We had a company MX5, 2009 though, doubt much different but it was well into the 150k region. Servicing and a clutch, rear wheel bearings and a windscreen. It was passed on to auction when the rear shocks went as it was deemed out of service.

I found it fun BUT slow, however from a 1.4 thats all battered up, it'll be fun times.


That's good to know. I test drove the 2.0 felt usably quick, but not "fast".
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 31 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wouldn't worry about most advisorys, and not old ones on disks and the link.

Rear anti roll bar bushes should be easy enough to do.

That is a mk3 so rust shouldn't be a major issue

Doing the rear wheel bearings is a bit of a git, purely down to one bolt mounting the hub that seizes very easily. If you may have to do it then spray with penetrating oil regularly for a week or two before hand.

Katy


I assume MX5 parts are cheap and easy to get hold of these days, and are relatively simple to work on?
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 31 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
I wouldn't worry about most advisorys

Dunno, if the vehicle keeps on getting them I take it as a sign it's a bit of a lemon.
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 31 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take it as a sign the owner / garage is no use. Minor advisories are good bargaining points and usually easy fixes.
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 31 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are all the advisories, and failures for the life of the car. Every other MOT has been a pass with no advisories. Anything there that stands out to people? To me these all seem fair wear and tear for the miles?


7th March 2017
Fail
75263 miles

Reason(s) for failure
Front Brake pad(s) less than 1.5 mm thick (3.5.1g)
Front brake disc in such a condition that it is seriously weakened (3.5.1i)
Rear Exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases (7.1.2)
(Passed same day)

8th March 2016
Pass
62901 miles

Advisory notice item(s)
Rear Brake pad(s) wearing thin (3.5.1g)
Rear brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (3.5.1i)
Nearside Rear Anti-roll bar linkage has slight play in a pin/bush (2.4.G.2)
Offside Rear Anti-roll bar linkage has slight play in a pin/bush (2.4.G.2)
Centre Rear Exhaust has a minor leak of exhaust gases (7.1.2)

17th march 2014
Fail
41403 miles

Reason(s) for failure
Front Brake pad(s) less than 1.5 mm thick (3.5.1g)

27th Feb 2013
Pass
36925 miles

Advisory notice item(s)
Front wiper blades slightly smearing screen.
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 31 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

lihp wrote:
I assume MX5 parts are cheap and easy to get hold of these days, and are relatively simple to work on?


Mazda spares are not that cheap, but how often do you actually need to buy spares which are not easy bits that can be sourced elsewhere?

If it has the Bose stereo then when the speakers go they cost a fortune.

Working on it varies. For example the oil filter has an access cover, which is offset about 6" . It is a bit of a pain to get at the filter. Not bad with a proper lift, but pretty much no chance on axle stands / ramps unless you remove the plastic undertray (which adds a shed load more time).

Removing the rear hub was a bit of a pain. Mainly down to a single bolt that seizes easily and can then shear off easily.

Changing the brake pads / disks is easy. Rear anti roll bar bushes should be easy enough (I will find out for sure some time soon!).

Getting a jack under it might be a bit of a pain.

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Dunno, if the vehicle keeps on getting them I take it as a sign it's a bit of a lemon.


For consumables towards the end of their lives?

All the best

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PostPosted: 22:55 - 31 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

i ran one of these for 4 years up to 100k. (2006 2.0)


i got rid because it had started to go very brown underneath and had just started bubbling on the rear arches.

other than that no problems really, rear shocks needed done and the last mot had a broken front spring, so did shock and springs all round.

only other problem was a partially stuck thermostat which was a £10 fix.

my pick of the range would be the 2.0 option pack. all the options except 17 inch wheels and sport dampers (uncomfotable) and leather seats. you do get the 6 speed 'box with the sport though.

check for wet floors especially behind the seats. this means blocked drains for the roof (leaves ect) and is an easy fix, but if its been like that for a while there will be rust underneath.

i would check for rust and if it looks bad underneath, walk away. i would say age is more important that miles with these, and 2008 is as old now as mine was when i sold due to rust.
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 31 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
M.C wrote:
Dunno, if the vehicle keeps on getting them I take it as a sign it's a bit of a lemon.


For consumables towards the end of their lives?

All the best

Katy

Looks like a bit more than consumables to me.
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 01 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:

Looks like a bit more than consumables to me.


Disks and pads are cobsumables, and the arb are pretty clise to it (and are cheap). Nothing i would be even slightly concerned about

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PostPosted: 18:32 - 01 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it depends on the price, really.
If it's from a dealer, you won't know how those 80K miles were accrued. Was it thrashed to pieces or motorway miles?
Still, less than 10K a year isn't too bad. Around average, I'd say. And, if looked after, I'd probably expect to see a good 50K+ more.
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PostPosted: 08:26 - 02 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:

Looks like a bit more than consumables to me.


really?

brake pads - consumable
brake discs - consumable
ARB drop links - might as well be consumable, dirt cheap and a piece of piss either way.
exhaust leak - hardly the end of the world, worst case a new back box, or possibly a repair.

fuck me, that list makes my jeep look like a nightmare! Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 02 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

i thrashed the arse off mine and it never really suffered for it Laughing

ARB links are definately consumables, the rods are metal but the moving bits are made of plastic so can break relatively easily. mine were never changed but apparantly had "free play" advisorys for 3 years straight.

IMO its a bit of a pisstake they werent made of galvanised steel. fiestas had that figured in 2002 Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 02 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stealer wouldn't move from his £6700 price 😂

So I ended up walking away from it. Plenty more to find and certainly much lower mileage for that money.
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 02 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

arb links are common on all shapes of mx5 back to 1989... don't worry.


corrosion on these new ones isn't as bad as the mk1 and 2... wouldn't worry.

iirc there's a rattly noise to look out for which is early sign of engine failure.. cant' remember what the cause is now though... but look it up it's well documented
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 02 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

groovylee wrote:
M.C wrote:

Looks like a bit more than consumables to me.


really?

brake pads - consumable
brake discs - consumable
ARB drop links - might as well be consumable, dirt cheap and a piece of piss either way.
exhaust leak - hardly the end of the world, worst case a new back box, or possibly a repair.

fuck me, that list makes my jeep look like a nightmare! Laughing

Hence why I said looks like a bit more Wink

£6700's far too much, when I had a quick look online I saw low mileage cars for that but thought they would be out of budget.
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 02 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

lihp wrote:
Stealer wouldn't move from his £6700 price 😂

So I ended up walking away from it. Plenty more to find and certainly much lower mileage for that money.



You could stay honda and get an S2000 for that, or some better cars, what is it you like about the mx5?
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 02 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

lihp wrote:
Stealer wouldn't move from his £6700 price 😂


For comparison in Jan 2015 I paid ~£6900 for mine. 2L Sport (Z Sport limited edition), 07 reg with 21k on the clocks (soft top) from a dealer.

My previous one (2L Sport, ~80k, 06 reg) which I traded in for it I was being offered between £2900 and £3500 for. The £2900 was from the dealer I bought my current one from, but the new one was significantly cheaper than other available. It landed up being punted out by another dealer for £5k I think

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PostPosted: 23:40 - 02 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fin wrote:
You could stay honda and get an S2000 for that, or some better cars, what is it you like about the mx5?


For me a couple of reasons.

MX5 is cheap to run and relatively usable daily. Significantly better on fuel than an S2000, far cheaper for one in equivalent condition, and cheaper to insure (as they seem to disappear off the road backwards far less often).

S2000s often seemed to have absolutely hideous interiors on them as well (horrible colours, and baggy worn leather).

Sure there are better cars than an MX5, but not with the same daily usability for me. If I wanted something less usable then I would just go and buy an Elise.

Down side of the new MX5 (and the Fiat clone) is that the are less usable. Marginally smaller boot and less storage space inside (no glove box).

All the best

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PostPosted: 06:31 - 03 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst i have an S2000 ( and did look at MX5) i tend to agree with this. I've had mine for 8 years now and i'd not touch a leggy 2nd hand one with a bargepole, not unless i knew the owner / history.

They are expensive to maintain properly and even more expensive to fix if they have been maintained on a shoestring. As with all performance cars, the number of badly modified ones is increasing and good clean standard ones are rare and therefore expensive.

I would definitely consider one of the run out models with the metal folding roof, in white or that deep red / deep metallic blue and i would increase the budget to about 13k - lovely car for not much money. Remember a new Micra is north of 18k Shocked
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