Failed cbt :(

[L.93]

So i have just been on my cbt, started at 8.15 by 12 were back at the centre, they told me i wasnt gonna be going onto on road driving pratice as i need more pratice first but wouldnt be sending me home, but when got back to the centre they sent me home and told me to rebook at a price of £75 when i already paid £120 for a full day that was supposed to finish at 5!

Didnt drop the bike or do anything really wrong, i agree more pratice was needed, i have no bike experience at all, all the guys on my course were renewing their cbt except one other guy who had no experience either and ird say was doing about the same as me on the course yet he got to stay on

Kinder feel like cos im female he didnt pass me, the instructor said 'if you was my daughter then i would want you to have more pratice first thats why you wont be doing the next part'

I said i understood but i didnt i was really upset so just said it so they didnt notice, also why should i have to pay more, the whole point of a cbt is to teach me and they sent me home 5 hours early, i dont get a refund for not completing the whole day

I really wanted this but it has disheartened me so much

[Rogerborg]

Did you remember to wear fresh socks? It's a good pratice.
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[haroman666]

Maybe they had good reason to deny you time on the road.
Maybe they didn't.

If it were me I would have pried them for specifics on WHY I wasn't allowed so that I could concentrate on working in those areas.

Personally, next steps would be to book another CBT at a different place.
That way you get another "qualified" opinion on your riding with no preconceived expectations.

Don't let it put you off bikes. Just a hurdle in the road.

Disclaimer: this is an opinion and not to be taken as sound advice.
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[MarJay]

They are supposed to supply you with the training needed to meet the minimum standard on the road. If they sent you home early then they did not do what they said they would do. If I were you I'd call and complain, and request that they waive the £75 fee.

If you did the full day that you paid for and still did not meet the safe standard, then you'll probably have to suck it up and pay the £75. Either way don't let it put you off.
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[woo]

I failed my CBT twice in the year 2000 and it cost £75 a go!
I was terrible and agreed i was not ready, as i was not even allowed on the road with the bike.
The second attempt i was terrible i just couldnt get my head around the gears.
The third attempt i just did it on a scooter and found it much easier.

Dont feel too disheartened as you are not the only person to fail a CBT and feel very crap afterwards.

I too want to have to pay again but they were like pay up (politely of course)

try again and if you want cheat like me and do it on scooter!

Ive been riding now on a geared bike for 16ys so you will be fine.
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[Liam_]

Did you finger his bum? and did he finger your bum (front or rear)
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[Bonnie Lad]

If you fail a CBT then you should really never be allowed on a bike on public roads.

[myvision]

You agree more practice is needed which bits need more practice?
All of it?
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[Rogerborg]

[L.93]

[Atomic Punk]

You can't fail a CBT by the way, it's not a test. You have just not reached the required standard to be allowed on the road.
When I taught it, if you needed further training you only had to pay for the bike hire, if you had your own bike it was FOC.
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[L.93]

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[AshWebster]

seems very harsh from the details you've given - I'd definitely be booking another school . don't give up
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[L.93]

[Ste]

How many other people were there that day and taken out on the roads by the instructor?

[grr666]

I fail to care about your bleats of victimisation simply because you were born with a vagina. Does that count?
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[L.93]

[Ste]

Isn't it meant to be a maximum of two CBT trainees per instructor?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/motorcycle-approved-training-body-atb-manual

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/compulsory-basic-training-cbt-syllabus-and-guidance-notes/element-e-practical-on-road-riding

[pinkyfloyd]

[L.93]

3 on the road, how many instructors? You are not allowed to take more than 2 students on the road at a time per instructor.

The CBT should work at the speed of the slowest player. You have paid for a full days training, if you have not received it then you have grounds to take it up with either the ATB manager (school owner) or the DVSA https://www.gov.uk/motorcycle-cbt/complain

We charge £110 for our days training, depending on circumstance we do charge a nominal small fee for a second day of further training should a student require it but it is very rare. We do also offer a 2 day CBT as there is nowhere on the actually syllabus any time scale. But it is not unknown for us to be out on road until after 5pm for some students to complete on a first day.[/quote]

I am not sure as i had been sent home at this point, i did think thats how it was supposed to be, i have tried ringing them several times since with no answer, i have now emailed them awaiting a response, they did not have a 2 day cbt as this is what i was looking for however they did offer a pre cbt for an hour one to one training at £40 but mates that already ride informed me that i shouldnt do the pre cbt as the cbt is supposed to cover all starting points

[pinkyfloyd]

Sounds like you were treated badly, They cut the slowest player. Sadly there are lots of schools like that just like there are many that cut corners. It's sad.

I had a conversation with a lady who walked away from a DAS course with another school and came to us. She said she wished she came to us first and had learnt more in a day than she had in 3 days with the other school.

Sadly this was the 4th time I have heard that from people changing schools and as I said to her, while it is good to get the compliment, we should not be hearing it. EVERY school should be working from the same hymn sheet. On its base level we are dealing with the most dangerous mode of transport, we are charged with training people to keep them alive. Cutting corners in my job could lead to the death of a student.

Should not happen. Its disgusting.
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