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How can you fail something that isn't a test? Hey I wonder what CBT stands for... ____________________ CBF 125 -> CB400SF -> GSX600F -> ZX6R (G1) -> GSXR1000 K4 -> ZX6R (B1H Stunt bike) -> VFR800 -> R1 5PW -> Sprint 1050 -> Fireblade 929 -> ZX10R C2H |
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G.92 wrote: | they did not have a 2 day cbt as this is what i was looking for however |
The CBT isn't a one day course, and advertising it as such is misleading. It's as much as you need to reach the minimum standard.
If they're not training you, then they shouldn't be charging you.
Contact the Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA) if you’re not happy with the standard of training you received, including if:
the on-road riding part didn’t last at least 2 hours
there were too many learners per trainer
Again, the numbers matter. 4:1 off road, 2:1 on road. If they didn't have 1 trainer for every 2 learners, then what was their plan for doing a full day's training with every learner?
G.92 wrote: | they did offer a pre cbt for an hour one to one training at £40 but mates that already ride informed me that i shouldnt do the pre cbt as the cbt is supposed to cover all starting points |
Correct, it's Basic Training.
The good news is that when you go back there or somewhere else, everything will be much easier. It's a lot to take in, you'll benefit from a bit of time for it to sink in. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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G.92- where are you in the country- your profile is not complete.
There are anomalies with the training.
I gather that you understand that its not a pass/fail course- you have to be at the required level (safe) to ride on the road for a minimum of 2 hrs(road riding)
Its assumed you know your highway code when you arrive- but as its BASIC training- if you cannot ride a moped/bike- then you will be shown..but you must be able to demonstrate that you are taking in the information & replicating it.
If you had to be self critical- where would you say that you felt weak and did you revise the highway code prior to attending?...we can then move onto the specifics of trainer ratios on the road and any redress you may have ____________________ Bike trip through Europe! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2yTtFPM7Xc |
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OK- thanks for giving me more information to work with.
I assume the training school (ATB) was used by the same people who recommended you to not bother with the taster session- was their experience similar?
You are absolutely correct- the aim of the CBT is to ensure you are familiar/confident to ride safely on the road.
I'm not sure if you felt confident with the gears and if you were all sharing one bike in the yard which resulted in so little training time?
so the Questions are
1.Did your mates use the same company
2.1 bike between 4?
3.confidence on gears?...I know you mentioned bike controls, but did you manage the emergency stop or talk about the legality of riding on the road ie did they talk about the highway code etc?...any other areas you felt less confident please? ____________________ Bike trip through Europe! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2yTtFPM7Xc |
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there are plenty of options if someone is not ready to ride on the road after the companies(ATB) allocated time slot of road riding.
There are admittedly some people who are not really suitable to ride through balance/sight/co-ordination etc
sometimes trainers are given too many students to deal with in relation to their experience/knowledge- so the day can quickly go down hill- but that is not the students fault- they have paid their money & expect a level of instruction to give them the best possible chance of success. ____________________ Bike trip through Europe! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2yTtFPM7Xc |
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OK L93
The board member Rogerborg, amongst others have offered some good advice.
I can see you appear to have completed all elements(sections), right upto the road ride.
Some students take to riding a bike quicker than others- people learn at differing stages. Some are clearly not going to get the hang of it & so other options should be explored in order to get you to ride safely, ultimately leading to your CBT- did you insist on a 125 geared bike?
For some people; riding a bike safely is not ever an option- (its unlikely I will ever have the aptitude to land a spacecraft or carry out complex surgery)..somethings you must accept are not in your make up-we are all created differently & you might be better at other things than your instructor for the day.
Ultimately its the qualified instructors call (he observed/trained you)-I would imagine he has your safety in mind- so bear that in mind please.
2 quick questions
1.how much was the CBT
2.Where did you see the ratings to establish they were the best in your area?
I have PM'd you ____________________ Bike trip through Europe! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2yTtFPM7Xc
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 261 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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