|
Author |
Message |
tactical_pancake |
This post is not being displayed .
|
tactical_pancake Renault 5 Driver
Joined: 03 Nov 2012 Karma :
|
Posted: 11:45 - 05 Aug 2017 Post subject: Avoiding morons overtaking into your path |
|
|
This summer I seem to have been dealing with a lot of incidents of car drivers overtaking into my path.
I.e. You are riding around a blind corner / hidden dip (or even a straight) to find you are facing a car racing towards you on collision-course in your lane, overtaking another vehicle, but without enough room to complete the overtake, so you have to take avoiding action.
This is one of my least favourite situations because in a head on collision you are likely to get deaded. My previous rideout to wales I had no less than 3 of these on one day, worst of which was a full on brake to edge of road with oncoming vehicle passing at NSL speed. Also had a memorable one on a clear straight road in france earlier this year with a pillion, and a blind woman try and take us out by deciding to pull out and overtake directly at us.
Anyway yesterday's rideout, statistics finally caught up and I got run off the road... luckily a low speed version of the scenario, into a small ditch at 10mph or so as I'd scrubbed off most of the speed before 'ditching'.
Fortuitously my superb ninja skillz avoided any damage / injury, and all I was able to manage was a pathetic peep of my horn as the offender dissappeared into the distance. Here is paint diagram, (also note there was a car tailgating behind me hence slamming the anchors on wasn't a good option, I think the car behind did emergency stop into the side of road, I didn't see I was concentrating on not crashing). Instead of the red car slamming on the brakes and folding in behind the yellow, he audibly revved up to try to out-accelerate the yellow car, perhaps in panic. I didn't see the driver, maybe they were elderly or blind, or sending an important text.
Obviously anyone doing this type of overtake is a complete moron (and I hope they meet a big pointy farm vehicle), but given that all road users are blind and trying to kill you, I try and ride defensively all the time .. however, I'm struggling with what options there are to avoid these situations.
Number one problem is being seen, to that end I've been wearing hi vis, bike is silver, maybe I should think about getting some more lights or colouring for the bike? Flashing lights, LED saying 'HELLO' or something.
Next is slowing down.. but I'm already pretty much the slowest cornering bike on the road. The resulting tailgater didn't help, but I normally just let them past at the first opportunity. But then again slowing down doesn't help when overtakers just don't see you.
Surely it's not just me that sees this kind of driving, what do the rest of you do, particularly those that ride the twisties 3x as fast as me? Is there any solution to this? I must admit it's been making me think that in the long term staying off these types of road is the only way to stay alive, other than give up biking... |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Rogerborg |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Rogerborg nimbA
Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :
|
Posted: 12:08 - 05 Aug 2017 Post subject: Re: Avoiding morons overtaking into your path |
|
|
tactical_pancake wrote: | in the long term staying off these types of road is the only way to stay alive |
Might be. They are far more dangerous than motorways, because of exactly this kind of mongery.
I run auxiliary LEDs on the Nazi Tractor, two point spots down on the crash bars and strips on the mirrors and stalks. That plus it being biggish and yellow and usually wearing bright clothes and a white lid does... well, who knows? Anyone who claims that they can adduce a statistically significant difference in other road users' behaviour based on variations on the same bike and clothing is only kidding themselves.
SMIDSY weaving is about the only active technique I can think of, but it's likely to be too late to use it proactively by the time car-cretin commits to the overtake.
Tailgaters can die in a fire, then be resurrected and die again. I'd strongly encourage getting them past you by any means necessary, up to and including pulling over or just coming to a stop in the road if they're determined to sit on your rear wheel without overtaking. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
ADSrox0r |
This post is not being displayed .
|
ADSrox0r World Chat Champion
Joined: 23 Oct 2012 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
doggone |
This post is not being displayed .
|
doggone World Chat Champion
Joined: 20 May 2004 Karma :
|
Posted: 13:52 - 05 Aug 2017 Post subject: |
|
|
Road positioning, your paint diagram suggests you were hugging the verge when if more toward the centre you'd see them a second sooner and vice versa.
Also if you went faster you would have been round that bend before they got there
Only partly joking as that's also part of proceeding in a more assertive manner. |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
M.C |
This post is not being displayed .
|
M.C Super Spammer
Joined: 29 Sep 2015 Karma :
|
Posted: 13:59 - 05 Aug 2017 Post subject: |
|
|
Unpopular opinion time; it's mainly other bikers I see doing the dodgy overtakes. Are you wearing your invisibility cloak when out on the bike? |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
ScaredyCat |
This post is not being displayed .
|
ScaredyCat World Chat Champion
Joined: 19 May 2012 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
tactical_pancake |
This post is not being displayed .
|
tactical_pancake Renault 5 Driver
Joined: 03 Nov 2012 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
M.C |
This post is not being displayed .
|
M.C Super Spammer
Joined: 29 Sep 2015 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
TaffyTDM |
This post is not being displayed .
|
TaffyTDM Spanner Monkey
Joined: 15 Jul 2015 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Tracer1234 |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Tracer1234 World Chat Champion
Joined: 13 Sep 2014 Karma :
|
Posted: 23:14 - 05 Aug 2017 Post subject: |
|
|
Road position to one side for a second....
Post position is the most glaring mustake here. Pop this bad boy in the Spill counter and your one step closer to, well, nothing, but pop it there anyway
Hows the bike? ____________________ Riding: Yamaha MT-09 Tracer Occasionally Riding: 08 Suzuki SV650, Potato: 2011 Yamaha YBR Custom.
Used to ride: 2015 Yamaha MT-09 Tracer (smidsy) 09 Triumph Street Triple (P/X'd) 08 Yamaha YBR (Sold)
CBT 04/14. A: Mod 1 & 2 13/04/15 |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Rogerborg |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Rogerborg nimbA
Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
doggone |
This post is not being displayed .
|
doggone World Chat Champion
Joined: 20 May 2004 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
tactical_pancake |
This post is not being displayed .
|
tactical_pancake Renault 5 Driver
Joined: 03 Nov 2012 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Tracer1234 |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Tracer1234 World Chat Champion
Joined: 13 Sep 2014 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
AshWebster |
This post is not being displayed .
|
AshWebster Brolly Dolly
Joined: 05 Jan 2017 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
skatefreak |
This post is not being displayed .
|
skatefreak World Chat Champion
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
M.C |
This post is not being displayed .
|
M.C Super Spammer
Joined: 29 Sep 2015 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
AshWebster |
This post is not being displayed .
|
AshWebster Brolly Dolly
Joined: 05 Jan 2017 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
skatefreak |
This post is not being displayed .
|
skatefreak World Chat Champion
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
M.C |
This post is not being displayed .
|
M.C Super Spammer
Joined: 29 Sep 2015 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
skatefreak |
This post is not being displayed .
|
skatefreak World Chat Champion
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
skatefreak |
This post is not being displayed .
|
skatefreak World Chat Champion
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
P. |
This post is not being displayed .
|
P. Red Rocket
Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
M.C |
This post is not being displayed .
|
M.C Super Spammer
Joined: 29 Sep 2015 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
skatefreak |
This post is not being displayed .
|
skatefreak World Chat Champion
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Karma :
|
Posted: 14:53 - 07 Aug 2017 Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 236 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
|
|
|