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winz
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 15 Aug 2017    Post subject: Getting callipers over rotors Reply with quote

Hi All,

Bike failed MOT on rear brake pad depth, fronts were an advisory, so I thought I would give the callipers a good clean and install some new pads all round.

So I have got the rear sorted, but I can't for the life of me get the front callipers over the rotors, Pistons have been pushed as far back as they can with a little tool.

Any local BCFers to Bristol in the know or and able to give me a little hand?

Beers or cash available.
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 15 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the end of the piston flush with the caliper when it's pushed in? Normally I just shove a big screwdriver in to open them up.
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 15 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is indeed.

However, I think I have just cracked it, pads out, attach callipers, then add pads.

Nice to work something out.
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 15 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

winz wrote:
It is indeed.

However, I think I have just cracked it, pads out, attach callipers, then add pads.

Nice to work something out.


Really?

I'm not saying you are wrong but in the (probably) 100's of pads I have changed on bikes I have never ever put pads in while the calipers are still attached to the wheel.

Unless you can put them in from the back of the caliper I would be rather worried about the security of the pads.
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 15 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
winz wrote:
It is indeed.

However, I think I have just cracked it, pads out, attach callipers, then add pads.

Nice to work something out.


Really?

I'm not saying you are wrong but in the (probably) 100's of pads I have changed on bikes I have never ever put pads in while the calipers are still attached to the wheel.

Unless you can put them in from the back of the caliper I would be rather worried about the security of the pads.


I inserted from behind *ooh err*.

Turns out you can replace all the pads on a Blackbird with the callipers on the bike. When flushing the braking system the combined system caught me out.

Fingers crossed I make it to the MOT and it passes. I'll get a friend to pop by to have a quick look over before I take it in.
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 15 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's quite normal to remove/fit the pads with the callipers on the bike.
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PostPosted: 08:04 - 16 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
It's quite normal to remove/fit the pads with the callipers on the bike.


That. Pins and clips which locate the pads in the caliper retain them there.
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 16 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you push the pistons back with the caliper still on the bike?
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 16 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug_the_bastard wrote:
How do you push the pistons back with the caliper still on the bike?


Simplez.

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PostPosted: 13:01 - 16 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug_the_bastard wrote:
How do you push the pistons back with the caliper still on the bike?


I took them off the clean them and used a piston compressor. Attached the callipers then inserted the pads.
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 16 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug_the_bastard wrote:
How do you push the pistons back with the caliper still on the bike?

i normally put my foot on the calliper, hold the disc and push.

i mean sometimes you can do it just with fingers and thumbs on the calliper but you normally need a bit more force than that.

undo the res. cap as well to make life a little easier.
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 21 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug_the_bastard wrote:
How do you push the pistons back with the caliper still on the bike?


Tons or brake cleaner around the piston rubbers to help shift shit.
Big wide flat screwdriver between the pad backing and manipulate the piston back.
Careful not to bend the disc.
They normally will squeeze back slowly.

I've never needed to remove a calliper to change pads.
Good maintenance is to pull them out and clean the sliding surfaces regularly then they don't stick.
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 22 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
It's quite normal to remove/fit the pads with the callipers on the bike.


It really isn't.
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PostPosted: 02:02 - 23 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

In 11 years riding, and owning/maintaining maybe a dozen bikes (plus working on friends and colleagues bikes), I can honestly say it's never even once occurred to me to attempt changing the pads without removing the calipers.

I also can also count on one hand the amount of times I've been able to push the pistons back without a clamp or bodged leverage of some sort.

I need to change the back pads on my Fazer in a week or two, maybe I'll have a go Thinking
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 23 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here all the instructions I watched or read said to remove caliper, but a quick google now shows that you can do it without.

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PostPosted: 12:44 - 23 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on the bike really. My default for the majority of our bikes is calipers off, pads out, clean caliper and pistons, pads in and refit. However, on the M900 it's easier to remove the pads before the calipers, and to refit the calipers before the pads. Horses for courses I suppose. There's nothing really wrong with either method.
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 23 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I wouldn't try to change the pads normally without removing the calipers, and on quite a lot of the bikes I have had it isn't even possible. Plenty have sliding calipers so no chance

All the best

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PostPosted: 20:15 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to the original problem, have the discs got corrosion on the rim, making the rim thicker than the working surface? That's just about the only reason I can think of that would mean you couldn't fit the calliper over the disc, but it's OK once it's fitted.
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Hi

I wouldn't try to change the pads normally without removing the calipers, and on quite a lot of the bikes I have had it isn't even possible. Plenty have sliding calipers so no chance

All the best

Katy


The rear of the strumpet requires the removal of the calliper to replace the pads

Conversely the front requires the removal of the pads to remove the calliper.
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