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Posted: 12:23 - 20 Aug 2017 Post subject: Test ride from hell |
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Took a GSXR600 for a test ride yesterday, I've always loved Gixxers and fancied getting one, but never owned a sports bike before so wanted to see if I could get on with the riding position. It quickly turned into a nightmare.
It broke down on the test ride as I was on the motorway, rang the dealership and they went fucking apeshit at me. Turns out the bike was SORN and they hadnt bothered to put trade plates or anything on. Apparently this was somehow my fault. So after eventually getting recovered by them, once I'd gotten home the "boss" started phoning me to rant at me, telling me that I was "disgusting and royally taking the piss" and saying that if they get any tickets from ANPR cams etc for no tax hes forwarding them to me, and that hes "got my licence and got me on video taking the bike" and going to "report me to the police for riding with no tax" and make it my fault.
I mean I'm pretty sure it doesnt work like that, its their bike, theyre a dealerhsip, and they let me test ride it on the road knowing it was SORN, so I fail to see how this can possibly come back on me. But I'd like to know where I stand and have my cards ready to deal should I get a visit from the Popo or any tickets sent my way.
Anyway, those issues aside, thoughts on the GSXR:
I'm actually heartbroken, I've always loved the look, style and colouring of them. And I wanted to get on with it so badly. But I just cant... I cant ride a sportsbike position, it absolutely ruined my back & knees, aching like a bitch after just 20 mins riding and being hunched over the tank like that makes me feel like a big dog trying to shag a chihuahua . It's an absolutely phenomenal bike, its so light, agile and has a frankly obscene amount of power. I love everything about it, but I just cannot ride a sports bike. I just love the upright position of my Bandit & Fazer too much. |
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Posted: 12:34 - 20 Aug 2017 Post subject: |
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What is this thing recently of people trying to force themselves to like sports bikes?
If you like a more comfortable riding position but want performance and agility, it's been said a thousand times: try a Street Triple. People say it for a reason y'know.
Very much doubt the dealer has a leg to stand on, trying to put the blame for their stupidity on you. I wouldn't worry about it. I would be tempted to name and shame though, assuming you have given the full story ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 12:46 - 20 Aug 2017 Post subject: |
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The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth your honour! I'm not going to name & shame because I don't really want to sink to that level, or possibly risk antagonising them any further.
Apparently they were under the impression I was "just taking it for a quick once around the block to check the gearbox". No idea where they got that impression from as I never said that, and told them when I phoned to enquire about it that I wanted to see how it felt to try commuting to work on it and do a run to work and back, (which is about 11 miles each way and seems like a thoroughly reasonable test-ride distance to me). Who books a test ride for a quick "once around the block"? Every other test ride I've been on, generally the dealer expects you to be out for about an hour or so.
Though this was a small 2 person family run place, rather than a big "proper" dealership, perhaps that's a factor. Either way I certainly wasn't impressed with the attitude of the boss.
As for trying to force myself to like a sports bike, it's more the idea of it. I wanted to try a small, light and nippy modern FI bike for getting around town and commuting on. I've always liked the look of some sports bikes and thought I may as well give one a go, rather than buying one outright and realising I hate it. So I've saved myself a lot of money My Bandit 1200S is a lovely bike, but its so big and heavy and gets utterly crap MPG around town that I dont really want to use it for commuting, its superb at long distance work but stop start inner London traffic isnt doing it any favours. I wanted to try something small and light as a potential commuter.
A Street Triple may well be the next one to try. I've been eyeing up a Sprint GT too, though that seems a bit too much like the Bandit to warrant buying as a 2nd bike. |
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Posted: 12:46 - 20 Aug 2017 Post subject: |
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I had exactly the same experience on a Daytona but without the dealer knobbery.
I love the look but just couldn't manage more than five miles or so without proper aches and pains.
Luckily I'd already bought a Street Triple, I suggest you do the same. |
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Posted: 12:54 - 20 Aug 2017 Post subject: |
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The dealer chap is clearly an idiot, probably got out the wrong side of the bed that day. I think he owes you an apology, but human nature being what it is, doubt you'll get one.
You've got to try the Striple. It's a true benchmark bike. Definitely a step up from the Fazer in terms of sportiness, but still with real, everyday usability. The Fazer makes a better all-rounder still imo, but the Triumph is the next step for more fun. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 13:01 - 20 Aug 2017 Post subject: |
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Is this going to be another one that makes an impact like the Striple has? The thing about the Striple is, it has a real-world, useable level of power. I'd seriously love to be in the position to afford an MT10, but as with my fantasy over owning a KTM1290SDR, I wonder if actually I'd just find it too much after a while? A fair amount has been said about how aggressive they are. Although I suppose you could always switch the power mode on a commute day. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I couldn't even get on with a CBR600F let alone a full arse-on-offer Gixxer. You're quite right to sack it off rather than kidding yourself that you'll somehow adjust yourself to fit a position designed for racing at full pelt on a track. Why should you, when bikes designed for actual humans are available?
Dealer is rageface because motorways are festooned with ANPR.
The offence is uses or keeps, there's no permits-or-allows. So strictly speaking they're right: you're on the hook for it, not them. However, if anything ever comes of it, I'd feel free to invoice them for the costs.
None of that makes them right. It makes them dodgy dickholes and they need to be named for great justice and lulz. Any of us could end up going there. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Bozzy2 wrote: | +1 on the Street Triple.
I went from an SV650S to a Street Triple R and never looked back.
The Street feels like a BMX in comparison and is so easy to throw around. It's an extremely competent bike and still far better than I am on the public roads. When I'm in the mood to ride hard, the bike obliges. It's (IMO) bloody quick without being intimidating, sounds epic and handles really well.
On the other side of things, it's so easy to ride slowly when you are bimbling about. I love the ergo's of the bike, sporty without looking like you want it up the gary. The engine is flexible being a 3 cylinder, and mine does around 45mpg which is generally weekend use, so pretty good on fuel! It's also nice and compact, easy to wheel about and store and cheap to insure.
I'd highly recommend trying one. |
Word of the day: paradox. Your post has reminded me of a couple of things about the Striple. Although it may be theoretically possible to get a decent range out of the tank, it's not particularly large. And whilst it is a very tractable engine that you can be lazy with on gear changes, like something of considerably more capacity, I found myself just caning it everywhere, so I doubt if I ever got anywhere close to 45mpg! Usually ended up filling up by the 100 mile mark, if that - having no fuel gauge didn't help. But you wouldn't be looking for anything more on a sports bike, right? And anyway, maybe that says more about me than the bike ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Nobby the Bastard wrote: | stonesie wrote: | I usually use A mode and TC3 (anti wheelie) but when the mood strikes the TC is turned down to 1 and Beast mode is unleashed... I agree that the 675 ST/R was ideal, enough power to out drag most other bikes from the lights, pretty comfortable and good on fuel while also being a hoot to ride.
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Dunno Nobby. I've read in more than one place that the thing is more like an on/off switch in full power mode. Which is fine for a bit of hooliganism now and again, and what everyone asks the manufacturers to deliver when they're effectively taking a sports bike and supposedly making it into something more practical for everyday use, but not much fun in traffic. Last thing I'd want when going for a gap whilst filtering is monster wheelies! Fecking hated riding my RG500 in traffic. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: | Bozzy2 wrote: | +1 on the Street Triple.
I went from an SV650S to a Street Triple R and never looked back.
The Street feels like a BMX in comparison and is so easy to throw around. It's an extremely competent bike and still far better than I am on the public roads. When I'm in the mood to ride hard, the bike obliges. It's (IMO) bloody quick without being intimidating, sounds epic and handles really well.
On the other side of things, it's so easy to ride slowly when you are bimbling about. I love the ergo's of the bike, sporty without looking like you want it up the gary. The engine is flexible being a 3 cylinder, and mine does around 45mpg which is generally weekend use, so pretty good on fuel! It's also nice and compact, easy to wheel about and store and cheap to insure.
I'd highly recommend trying one. |
Word of the day: paradox. Your post has reminded me of a couple of things about the Striple. Although it may be theoretically possible to get a decent range out of the tank, it's not particularly large. And whilst it is a very tractable engine that you can be lazy with on gear changes, like something of considerably more capacity, I found myself just caning it everywhere, so I doubt if I ever got anywhere close to 45mpg! Usually ended up filling up by the 100 mile mark, if that - having no fuel gauge didn't help. But you wouldn't be looking for anything more on a sports bike, right? And anyway, maybe that says more about me than the bike |
I get around about 120 miles from the tank before the yellow light comes on, not sure how large reserve is but never tried. Quite right though, not a big tank. I mustn't be doing it right to make it last more than 100 miles though I must try harder! |
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Bozzy2 wrote: | I mustn't be doing it right to make it last more than 100 miles though I must try harder! |
I'm not suggesting that's how everyone has to ride them. Just how I had to, seemingly Or rather, once I'd sussed how good they were for that kind of riding, I had to. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Rogerborg wrote: | I couldn't even get on with a CBR600F let alone a full arse-on-offer Gixxer. You're quite right to sack it off rather than kidding yourself that you'll somehow adjust yourself to fit a position designed for racing at full pelt on a track. Why should you, when bikes designed for actual humans are available?
Dealer is rageface because motorways are festooned with ANPR.
The offence is uses or keeps, there's no permits-or-allows. So strictly speaking they're right: you're on the hook for it, not them. However, if anything ever comes of it, I'd feel free to invoice them for the costs.
None of that makes them right. It makes them dodgy dickholes and they need to be named for great justice and lulz. Any of us could end up going there. |
But since no trade plates and the bike won't be registered to the dealer, the chances of any come back are approximately zero.
Of course, if the dealer did shop the OP (which clearly they won't) I'm sure that trading standards & the local press would be very interested.
And I'm also sure that the Small Claims Court would be equally happy to award damages at least equal to the OP's fine.
Personally, I'd visit the dealer and tell them to suck my balls.
But that's just me. ____________________ Suzuki Bandit 1250
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 251 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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