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LustyLew World Chat Champion
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Posted: 09:05 - 22 Aug 2017 Post subject: Career Advice |
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Morning all,
After opinions and advice after receiving two job offers (lucky me!).
Me: 36 y/o IT Infrastructure Engineer, ~5 years experience, predominantly VM Ware, Server 2008/2012, Exchange, some storage and networking. SCOM, SCCM, Veeam, NetBackup etc etc
Job 1:
Corporate Service Provider (think Capita, Accenture)
Supporting Win Server & VMWare only
Salary £46k + overtime & on-call
No bonus scheme
Pension 16% employer&employee
Hours rota'd between 0800 & 1800
Usual corporate healthcare perks etc
Training - at workplace only
Job 2
Global Real Estate (JLL, CBRE etc)
Supporting mainly VMWare, Server & Storage but scope for Networks and other areas
Salary £47k + overtime & on-call
Performance related bonus around 12% of base salary
Pension 14% employer&employee
Hours rota'd between 0730 and 1830
Usual corporate healthcare perks etc
Training - external certified (ITIL, VCAP etc)
Currently I am bikeless due to theft, so I train from Erith (yes yes!) into London Cannon St. Both places are walking distance from there. Purchasing another bike is possible, but not high on the list ATM.
The sensible head on me suggests taking Job 2 and developing further. I'm not that old! Stick out the shift work for a while and then see where the opportunities take me. Also Job 1 would limit my field of expertise. Moving on would mean I'd need to be a pro in Win Server and VMWare to progress.
The lazy git in me says Job 1 and live on easy street (and most likely get very bored!).
I know it's not your job to answer the question for me, but what would you choose? ____________________ Like a Yorkie - I'm not for the girls |
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natefz6 Brolly Dolly
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P. Red Rocket
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Posted: 16:16 - 22 Aug 2017 Post subject: |
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Job 1.
1 hour additional on each day for 1k more a year. Nah. Even factoring in a bonus, its never going to be great, that will be to suck you in. Mine was similar.
5 working days a week, so 5 more hours here x 52, it'll be less but just max numbers.
5*52=260 hours in total over a year.
Change that to 200 for holidays and shit.
£1000 for 200 hours work. Would you? I work 40 hour weeks and get paid a little less... so no, no I would not take job 2. My time is worth more than that. |
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owl World Chat Champion
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Posted: 16:35 - 22 Aug 2017 Post subject: |
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Paddy. wrote: | Job 1.
1 hour additional on each day for 1k more a year. Nah. Even factoring in a bonus, its never going to be great, that will be to suck you in. Mine was similar.
5 working days a week, so 5 more hours here x 52, it'll be less but just max numbers.
5*52=260 hours in total over a year.
Change that to 200 for holidays and shit.
£1000 for 200 hours work. Would you? I work 40 hour weeks and get paid a little less... so no, no I would not take job 2. My time is worth more than that. |
I think he means the working hours are rota'd between those times, probably on a "standard" 37.5 hour work week, although I could be wrong.
So if you start at 8am you finish at 4.30pm, if you start at 9.30am you finish at 6pm etc.
OP needs to clarify working hours on each role
As for my advice, MSP are c*nts, and estate agents are c*nts, so enjoy that, but also if possible try take the opportunity to meet the team you will be working with, I find there's generally 3 cornerstones, Job, Money and People, it's very rare to find all 3 things are good, the most of I've got is 2 out of 3 ____________________ Observation is the greatest source of wisdom. |
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natefz6 Brolly Dolly
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ocatoro World Chat Champion
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Posted: 23:46 - 22 Aug 2017 Post subject: |
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Job 2, said it yourself, job 1 is limiting not just in terms of what you'll do, but in terms of progress, and future prospects.
externally certified training is worth more than extra money, and slightly less convenient hours are worth it to keep your options open for the future and for the progression it will allow you.
you know what makes sense, but the question is I guess how fond are you really of easy street. ____________________ CBT - 17/09/12 * Theory - 23/10/12 * Mod1 - 05/03/13 * Mod2 - 25/03/13 * BOSH!
Current - None but shed project H100 (first bike )
Past - ER5, '93 ZZR600, '92 CB400 SF, ZZR600 (again), yellow Monster 620, Blackbird - black Monster 620ie - '96 ZZR600 |
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LustyLew World Chat Champion
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Posted: 09:12 - 23 Aug 2017 Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the advice.
both roles are 0900-1730, then adjusted, 0730-1600, 1000-1830.
After careful consideration, Job 2 it is.
Cheers! ____________________ Like a Yorkie - I'm not for the girls |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 216 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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