BCF detectives - find me reasons NOT to buy this car

[rpsmith79]

[stevo as b4]

Two things:

First despite everyone else saying mk3, the mk4 Golf IMO is the worst, blandest, least satisfying Golf they ever made. I wouldn't have one just because it's cheap, and you can get a tunable but chronically noisy PD engine in them.

Secondly, diesels of that age do not get emissions tested other than a visible smoke test, and they don't need by law to retain the original exhaust system equipment. You can do a DPF and cat removal, and when it's been mapped to allow it to run without, you'll get a much quicker turbo spool up and more boost delivered sooner too.

Non of above is helpful to OP though. Im quite amused by the anti diesel attitude of many. If you want something that's good and flexible and punchy in day to day driving, TD's better most mid size petrol engines. You can't make a Nasp petrol fast or drive really well today, as emissions regs are impossible to meet if you want performance.

You only get TDI beating performance and torque delivery almost when you put a turbo onto a same size petrol engine, but do that and fuel economy goes to shit in comparison.

Only thing diesel can't really beat petrol on is the 1.0 ish city car, where having the extra expense of say a 1.3TDI is uneconomic and not a big advantage, on stop start driven small cars or those used for frequent cold short journeys.

My old 2.0 Rover engine won't ever beat 24-25mpg, but the 2.0 Diesel equivalent will always see 50mpg or more driven as fast as you like. It also is very easy to tune to 150bhp, and has appreciably more torque delivered earlier than the std 2.0 petrol.

[Shaft]

[UncleFester]

Mate had one - was forever in limp mode and dealer could not cure it.

Octavia VRS all day long for me.
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[stevo as b4]

OK then, so say you want an executive saloon or big comfy cruiser or a large softroader for towing and carrying heavy loads in. Or you do 25'000miles a year etc.

Are you saying that we'll all be forced to buy 2.0-3.0+ petrol engines in these vehicles and overnight go from 40-50mpg vehicles to underpowered, low on torque thirsty petrol cars that can't do over 30mpg. People won't suddenly put up with 3.0petrol fuel consumption just because of what people are telling them to buy, knowing that there was something better suited that they can't have.

I thought that new Euro6 diesels were clean enough, and won't be banned from London like all the older big polluters like pre Euro 4 vehicles.

Truck operator companies have to put up with 2-4mpg less currently in the name of clean emissions from new trucks. This can make or break companies operating margins. Its a sad fact that we have to burn more fuel thus creating more emissions just to have a cleaner exhaust, kind of defeats the object of stricter emissions laws IMO.

[Rogerborg]

[dodsi]

Currently leasing a Diesel, and planning on leasing another in a years time.

I wouldn't buy one though!

[BTTD]

[chrisdubya]

If I'm honest I haven't read everyone's replies but I suggest something with a PD130 lump in it. Ibiza FR's will be in your price range now, cracking engines and are the more sporty side of the range. Also Fabia VRS. Go well with a remap too.

Audi's & Golfs use the same engine but more monies

[arry]

[V2]

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201708188467230?make=BMW&fuel-type=Diesel&transmission=Manual&advertising-location=at_cars&price-to=3000&sort=sponsored&radius=60&postcode=fy83nw&minimum-badge-engine-size=2.6&onesearchad=Used&page=1

[Robby]

Simple car buying tip: Don't buy a manual mercedes.

Back in the day this was because their manual boxes were crap and the manual cars were a bit cheaper. A manual C-class was owned by someone who could just afford to buy it, but really wanted a mercedes. If I'm buying a secondhand car, I'm hoping that the first owner could afford to look after it.

To be honest, I haven't even seen a manual mercedes since the 90s. I thought they stopped doing them. If I wanted a manual, RWD German saloon I'd buy a BMW.

If you want a sporty car for a daily driver, get an MX5. If you want a manual german saloon that handles well, get a BMW. If you're a prick, get an Audi. If you want the driving experience without the looks, get a hot hatch.

[Rogerborg]

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[Nb]

Because they are complete and UTTER SHITE. Theres one.
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[Bubbs]

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[Bubbs]

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[stevo as b4]

Way off topic, so someone please delete at your leisure. But I still find it amazing that we've had over 100years of the ICE engine, and let's just pick on petrols for a second.

I used to think what's changed in the last 25years, 4valve combustion chambers, light alloy heads and even blocks, multi point fuel injection and VVT systems, and 3way controlled catalysts etc. Millennium> engines didn't seem any different from the past to me.

But it's all the small but significant improvements like stop start, cylinder de-activation, advanced learning ECU's, direct injection, etc. It was when 2.0 petrols could make 200bhp but do 40mpg I started to think, yeah there's progress I spose.

But everything has been tried now, and there's nothing economically viable left to do now. We've had down sizing, down speeding, modular engine designs, forced induction for efficiency and emissions, throttle less engines with valvetronic and multiair systems. And camless valve actuation. Even HCCI. There really is nothing of significant benefits left on the table for engine designers to pick up and run with.

Electric motors and more so battery technology is just beginning by comparison, with much left to discover and explore, and some big breakthroughs waiting to be discovered.

2040> could be quite exciting times for tech heads tbh!

[Tracer1234]

9 bob note, OP has driven of into the sunset in the first suggestion.
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[P.]

He's currently sitting his heavy coupe which will shit parts of suspension and eat it's gearbox, all while drinking fuel.

You either need a car for the a to b job, or as a weekend tool.

Using one for the other job is not pleasant nor cheap. You have cars like the MX-5 which are usable everyday and can be hammered at the weekends but it's at a cost of seats and economy.

The civic was not cheap to drive as you had to be 100% ALL the time. Otherwise you had a brick. Bit like this Merc but I probably have more power.

No, I'd not have bought that car you posted. I'd also not touch another Audi but that's my preference.

[M.C]

[Shaft]

[M.C]

Don't you press the clutch in when coming to a stop? What if traffic's about to move away and you only briefly need the handbrake? It's a faff of a system designed for automatics, to the point where it puts me off Mercedes (along with other reasons).

[Tracer1234]

So OP, went and did it anyway...

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[P.]