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PostPosted: 22:54 - 23 Aug 2017    Post subject: Dashcam footage from public scheme to go Wales-wide Reply with quote

The Police in Wales are now accepting entries for shit driving/riding from the general public.

I may have to upload some videos of the Visla taking a shit for them to enjoy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-40998946
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 23 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Footage has to be unedited and include the whole journey, not just the incident. Members of the public are also told not to post it on social media, or to remove it if it has already been posted."

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PostPosted: 23:11 - 23 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep it for insurance purposes and don't be a grass Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 23 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll end up like one of them there facebook pages of local rants by idiots. (Although wanting the 'whole journey footage may discourage the discerning fuckwit.)
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 23 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those pages are great, especially when you find your neighbours car on one. Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 23 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

But, it'll make filtering look bad, and over time we'll be fucked. Dashcams and helmet cams will, spoil motorcycling. If you're doing something someone else can't do, they'll hate you. Put it (your journey) online, and they'll hate you more.
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PostPosted: 08:15 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
"Footage has to be unedited and include the whole journey, not just the incident.

Wouldn't it just be easier to tick a box to incriminate yourself?


Ste wrote:
Members of the public are also told not to post it on social media, or to remove it if it has already been posted.

Especially if it's of Heddlu vehicles, right? Whistle
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kentol750 wrote:
But, it'll make filtering look bad, and over time we'll be fucked. Dashcams and helmet cams will, spoil motorcycling. If you're doing something someone else can't do, they'll hate you. Put it (your journey) online, and they'll hate you more.


You're right I agree.
Do good goody do goods will love this scheme and coppers love a grass.

I can understand the use of the loop (films on a twenty minute loop) dash cams for insurance purposes after a crash.
But piggies encouraging ordinary people to grass on each other seems a bit 1984 to me.
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure how I feel about this. Had a few incidents where there should be some justice for exceptionally bad driving.

Had a word with a woman doing a crossword/Sudoku on the A3. Yeah the traffic was moving fairly slowly, but the lanes are quite narrow and there are a large number of cyclists and motorcyclists that would like to make progress.

Sometime last year I saw a 'active wear' mum eating cereal and watching some kind of show on her iPad.

Maybe should go full batman and dish out my own slice of vigilante justice.
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always said those that use dashcams for accident purposes are cowards.
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT200Fan79 wrote:
Always said those that use dashcams for accident purposes are cowards.

I don't even understand what you're saying, but by golly, I admire your bile.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT200Fan79 wrote:
Always said those that use dashcams for accident purposes are cowards.


And cash for cash scammers?
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone who needs a camera to prove they are in the wrong / right is a mentalist.
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT200Fan79 wrote:
Someone who needs a camera to prove they are in the wrong / right is a mentalist.

If you keep asserting it often and adamantly enough, it might become true.

Applies to crashes, and your position on dashcams.
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT200Fan79 wrote:
Someone who needs a camera to prove they are in the wrong / right is a mentalist.


When some pikey in a battered transit deliberately reverses into you at lights then claim you hit him, no witnesses, many personal injuries then what
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a dangerous precedent to set. It's a medium step away from people walking around with bodycams on.
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
"Footage has to be unedited and include the whole journey, not just the incident.


Every dashcam I've seen records in configurable chunks, with the older footage automatically over-written. So they either want me to make sure I have a large enough card to record the longest journey I will ever make (assuming an incident might happen right at the end) or to send them all 36 5-minute clips of a 3 hour journey (but not spliced together, oh no).

I'm guess what they are implying is that they want to see the build-up to an incident. What they might actually want is the windfall of self-incriminating evidence they can 'police' from the tea room.
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

tracks wrote:
It's a dangerous precedent to set.

How terrified should we be?

tracks wrote:
It's a medium step away from people walking around with bodycams on.

Problem?
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always figured that helmet cams and dash cams are for the indignant. Pound to a penny every one of those who use them also commit some sort of offence during their journey.

I know if I had a helmet cam it would end up showing things that I didn't want the world (and certainly the police) to see.
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT200Fan79 wrote:
Someone who needs a camera to prove they are in the wrong / right is a mentalist.

Well I've had two incidents now where the other party has lied. In the second they said what accident and drove off (luckily it was a work vehicle). In an ideal world you wouldn't need one.
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

duhawkz wrote:
GT200Fan79 wrote:
Someone who needs a camera to prove they are in the wrong / right is a mentalist.


When some pikey in a battered transit deliberately reverses into you at lights then claim you hit him, no witnesses, many personal injuries then what



The odds of that happening are so unlikely I'm certainly not going to start recording every single fucking journey.
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

tracks wrote:
It's a dangerous precedent to set. It's a medium step away from people walking around with bodycams on.


WTF is wrong with wearing a body-cam?

I carry my I.D. on me at all times and my Body-Cam is on Loop.

Just in case.



And....

This is, IMHO, an very underrated website:

https://rate-driver.co.uk/

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PostPosted: 16:45 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
tracks wrote:
It's a dangerous precedent to set.

How terrified should we be?


Are terror and danger mutually exclusive?

Rogerborg wrote:
tracks wrote:
It's a medium step away from people walking around with bodycams on.

Problem?


I believe it may. If, in the future, everyday personally recorded footage can be used to protect ourselves from ourselves we have lost.

Of course, there will always be the apathetic element in any society that would be unperturbed should it ever happen, which it probably won't, so it's all a rather mute point but an interesting argument to make.
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
In an ideal world you wouldn't need one.


Bingo!
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 24 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

tracks wrote:
It's a dangerous precedent to set. It's a medium step away from people walking around with bodycams on.


I have you covered.

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