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Firstly, congratulations on getting a superb bike. If big miles are your thing then there's little that'll touch an FJR1300.
Having a full FSH means nothing unless there is evidence that the work has been done. My FJR has done over 50K and like most it is supremely reliable. ALL of it's servicing from 2K has been done by myself. I just wouldn't trust dealers to do it correctly. There's just too many people who happily hand over shit loads of money for work that, much of the time, just isn't done.
Assuming the oil and filters have been changed regularly the main concern should be the rear suspension linkages. These should be stripped and greased every 12K - without exception. Mine is still on original bearings but if they are left unattended they will eventually seize up and in extreme cases the dog bones will fail. This isn't a design issue but an often neglected service issue. Walk away from dealers that say they never give problems. Valve clearances should be done every 24K and it sounds like this is slightly overdue.
I suggest you join the FJR uk forum. It's a wealth of really good information and people are very willing to help https://www.fjfjrbiker.co.uk/
There is also an FJ/FJR owners "club". The "club" operates as a business with regard to parts and servicing - I use them for service parts. They operate a workshop and most who have used them for servicing highly recommend them. Maybe worth considering getting them to do the big service if you don't feel able to do it yourself. They are located close to junction 14 on the M5. I believe that as well as being highly experienced in all things FJR they are much cheaper than main dealers. |
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IS it the FJR that has an "important bit" that needs attending to in a service that is often overlooked
"important bit" that's my technical knowledge that is |
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Hi All, thanks for the advice. Peperomi i agree, its a good shop with great lads working there, but for whatever reason they dont like my cash. I walked in there with 4k cash for a brandnew 125 and gear a few years ago and they wouldnt even pull one out of the line up "needs checking over first" etc..
Anyhow i dont wont a fitter with a laptop so thanks for being honest, apparently the machanic hates siezed bolts... ??
So onwards, id do all my own servicing, but atm im lacking a garage and time, if i need to replace the shims on the vavles and take out the cams ill be in over my head esp with no garage and bench...
Im gonna check oyt the owners club workshop i found them yesterday so good to hear good things.
The guy i got the bike off was fastidious in records he has FSH with receipts and credit card receipts. He had his own written records so im happy the bike is well cared for, but tge valves and linkage are due which i knew..
Happy daze all, thanks for advice. ____________________ ybr125 Sold, GSF600 K1 Bandit (For Sale), FJR13000 gen2. |
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Enduro Numpty wrote: | Firstly, congratulations on getting a superb bike. If big miles are your thing then there's little that'll touch an FJR1300.
Having a full FSH means nothing unless there is evidence that the work has been done. My FJR has done over 50K and like most it is supremely reliable. ALL of it's servicing from 2K has been done by myself. I just wouldn't trust dealers to do it correctly. There's just too many people who happily hand over shit loads of money for work that, much of the time, just isn't done.
Assuming the oil and filters have been changed regularly the main concern should be the rear suspension linkages. These should be stripped and greased every 12K - without exception. Mine is still on original bearings but if they are left unattended they will eventually seize up and in extreme cases the dog bones will fail. This isn't a design issue but an often neglected service issue. Walk away from dealers that say they never give problems. Valve clearances should be done every 24K and it sounds like this is slightly overdue.
I suggest you join the FJR uk forum. It's a wealth of really good information and people are very willing to help https://www.fjfjrbiker.co.uk/
There is also an FJ/FJR owners "club". The "club" operates as a business with regard to parts and servicing - I use them for service parts. They operate a workshop and most who have used them for servicing highly recommend them. Maybe worth considering getting them to do the big service if you don't feel able to do it yourself. They are located close to junction 14 on the M5. I believe that as well as being highly experienced in all things FJR they are much cheaper than main dealers. |
^^^^^ very much this, enjoy your new bike, cracking machine, a great all rounder, I bought an ex demo 2016 model on Easter Friday, with 850 miles on her, now just about to do the 6k oil change, and I nlynride for fun, not commuting, its a bike you just want to ride. |
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Enduro Numpty wrote: | Firstly, congratulations on getting a superb bike. If big miles are your thing then there's little that'll touch an FJR1300.
Having a full FSH means nothing unless there is evidence that the work has been done. My FJR has done over 50K and like most it is supremely reliable. ALL of it's servicing from 2K has been done by myself. I just wouldn't trust dealers to do it correctly. There's just too many people who happily hand over shit loads of money for work that, much of the time, just isn't done.
Assuming the oil and filters have been changed regularly the main concern should be the rear suspension linkages. These should be stripped and greased every 12K - without exception. Mine is still on original bearings but if they are left unattended they will eventually seize up and in extreme cases the dog bones will fail. This isn't a design issue but an often neglected service issue. Walk away from dealers that say they never give problems. Valve clearances should be done every 24K and it sounds like this is slightly overdue.
I suggest you join the FJR uk forum. It's a wealth of really good information and people are very willing to help https://www.fjfjrbiker.co.uk/
There is also an FJ/FJR owners "club". The "club" operates as a business with regard to parts and servicing - I use them for service parts. They operate a workshop and most who have used them for servicing highly recommend them. Maybe worth considering getting them to do the big service if you don't feel able to do it yourself. They are located close to junction 14 on the M5. I believe that as well as being highly experienced in all things FJR they are much cheaper than main dealers. |
^^^^^ very much this, enjoy your new bike, cracking machine, a great all rounder, I bought an ex demo 2016 model on Easter Friday, with 850 miles on her, now just about to do the 6k oil change, its a bike you just want to ride. |
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Analogkid wrote: | Enduro Numpty wrote: | Firstly, congratulations on getting a superb bike. If big miles are your thing then there's little that'll touch an FJR1300.
Having a full FSH means nothing unless there is evidence that the work has been done. My FJR has done over 50K and like most it is supremely reliable. ALL of it's servicing from 2K has been done by myself. I just wouldn't trust dealers to do it correctly. There's just too many people who happily hand over shit loads of money for work that, much of the time, just isn't done.
Assuming the oil and filters have been changed regularly the main concern should be the rear suspension linkages. These should be stripped and greased every 12K - without exception. Mine is still on original bearings but if they are left unattended they will eventually seize up and in extreme cases the dog bones will fail. This isn't a design issue but an often neglected service issue. Walk away from dealers that say they never give problems. Valve clearances should be done every 24K and it sounds like this is slightly overdue.
I suggest you join the FJR uk forum. It's a wealth of really good information and people are very willing to help https://www.fjfjrbiker.co.uk/
There is also an FJ/FJR owners "club". The "club" operates as a business with regard to parts and servicing - I use them for service parts. They operate a workshop and most who have used them for servicing highly recommend them. Maybe worth considering getting them to do the big service if you don't feel able to do it yourself. They are located close to junction 14 on the M5. I believe that as well as being highly experienced in all things FJR they are much cheaper than main dealers. |
^^^^^ very much this, enjoy your new bike, cracking machine, a great all rounder, I bought an ex demo 2016 model on Easter Friday, with 850 miles on her, now just about to do the 6k oil change, its a bike you just want to ride. |
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I really can't be arsed replying to this nonsense but in the hope that in doing so I can prevent someone from taking your badly ill informed advice I will.
Firstly, Yamaha service manual states inspect and regrease all bearings every 12,000 miles or 2 years. If you can do this without taking it apart then please explain how.
Maybe you do know more than me, maybe you don't? I'm a member of the FJ/FJR owners club and have access to a wealth of information and experience gained in the FJ/FJR workshop that you very obviously don't. You may question my ability - fair enough, I am only a home mechanic but in my defence am a qualified engineer. I've said nothing regarding the linkages that isn't stated by Yamaha and perhaps more relevant, the FJ/FJR club workshop. These guys see the effects of not servicing the linkages regularly. They recommend 12k servicing as the maximum and as you say, less if used in repeated adverse conditions.
As for fitting bleed nipples: It's so easy to say but short of a wholesale redesign of the suspension linkage it just isn't feasible.
You don't happen to work for a bike shop do you? The reason I ask is because what you're saying sounds worryingly like the "linkages are greased as required" nonsense they spout. Loads of cases of people buying bikes with FSH from main dealers only for linkages to seize.
I'll continue to service my bikes as per the service schedule and if your happy to make your own up that's fair enough but please read the following links before you persuade people that you know better.
I didn't contribute to this thread for any other reason than to make the OP aware of a major potential problem and to congratulate him on buying a great bike. I have no intention of getting into a protracted argument. There's just no point
https://www.fjfjrbiker.co.uk/index.php?topic=3203.0
https://www.fjfjrbiker.co.uk/index.php?topic=19738.0 |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 214 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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