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PostPosted: 16:28 - 31 Aug 2017    Post subject: Where to get a Lefthand throttle? Reply with quote

Been looking around for a lefthand throttle that doesn't cost loadsa money and there doesn't seem to be any. I'd have thought they weren't hard to get but maybe I just don't know where to look because so far the only lefty throttles I've found are for vintage bikes or customs, and they are all stupid expensive so I was thinking that perhaps an old Japanese twin cable jobbie that had a push and pull cable might be able to be adapted into a lefthand throttle but as I don't have one here to look at I can't tell if it could be easily done. Anybody got any ideas if that might work?
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 31 Aug 2017    Post subject: Re: Where to get a Lefthand throttle? Reply with quote

lingeringstink wrote:
Been looking around for a left hand throttle that doesn't cost loadsa money and there doesn't seem to be any. I'd have thought they weren't hard to get but maybe I just don't know where to look because so far the only lefty throttles I've found are for vintage bikes or customs, and they are all stupid expensive so I was thinking that perhaps an old Japanese twin cable jobbie that had a push and pull cable might be able to be adapted into a left hand throttle but as I don't have one here to look at I can't tell if it could be easily done. Anybody got any ideas if that might work?


Any major reason? e.g. disability. Or just a leftie?
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 31 Aug 2017    Post subject: Re: Where to get a Lefthand throttle? Reply with quote

Tracer1234 wrote:

Any major reason? e.g. disability. Or just a leftie?


It's so he can fire his handgun while riding.

But yes, NABD use a push-pull throttle for LHS conversions.

https://www.nabd.org.uk/openhouse/openhouse43/43p8.htm#left
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 31 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.biketorqueracing.co.uk/controls/throttle-controls/domino-twin-cable-throttles

Fit on left, fit 'close' cable to regular throttle cable position, dont connect the other cable. job done.


I would ask why but its more interesting to wait and see what batshit insane stuff you come out with next. Laughing


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PostPosted: 19:15 - 31 Aug 2017    Post subject: Re: Where to get a Lefthand throttle? Reply with quote

Tracer1234 wrote:


Any major reason? e.g. disability. Or just a leftie?



It be cuz I is a moron!

Actually I'm a closet lefty at heart. I was born left handed but my granny apparently thought it was Satanic or something and reportedly stated that she wasn't going to have no left handed grandkid, so they made me eat with my little spoon in my right hand and shit until I apparently just got used to it and grew up right handed.

However, all that's got nothing to do with my hunt for a lefthanded throttle. The problem is that I was wanting to use my "free to a good home, please take this thing away from me" hand change shift lever somebody gave me on my bike rebuild and if I move the throttle and the clutch to their opposite sides it should make things easier. Rear brake pedal is still going to be on the right and everything else is pretty much staying the same as far as switchgear and shit. I might get used to it eventually.
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 31 Aug 2017    Post subject: Re: Where to get a Lefthand throttle? Reply with quote

lingeringstink wrote:
I might get used to it eventually.


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PostPosted: 19:34 - 31 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

virus wrote:


I would ask why but its more interesting to wait and see what batshit insane stuff you come out with next. Laughing



Called it. Cool Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 31 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

virus wrote:
https://www.biketorqueracing.co.uk/controls/throttle-controls/domino-twin-cable-throttles


I've already cobbled up a foot shifter for my new footpeg placement if I really HAVE to do things normally, but I quite like the idea of the hand change. Here's a couple of bad pics to show what I'm thinking.


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PostPosted: 20:03 - 31 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd rather sort a linkage to get the gear shifter to put it on the right hand side, rather than putting the throttle on the left handlebar. You're gonna get hurt, with that contraption of yours. Confused

Are you going to keep the clutch lever on the left?
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 31 Aug 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

lingeringstink wrote:

I've already cobbled up a foot shifter for my new footpeg placement if I really HAVE to do things normally, but I quite like the idea of the hand change. Here's a couple of bad pics to show what I'm thinking.


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but please continue .. fascinated to see Darwinian theory in practice.... Idea
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 01 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to make a hand gear change, why not work out a way of using the left hand twistgrip to change gear (like on some mountain bikes) along with your foot clutch.

That means you can have a hand gear change whilst keeping both hands on the bars.
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 01 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Are you going to keep the clutch lever on the left?


No, the clutch would go on the right. It's not as weird as you'd think. Seems to me that having the clutrch lever on the right and the throttle and the shifter on the left it's not too hard to get your head round it.

You'd clutch with your right hand, let off the left throttle tap the shifter, and then back on the throttle. Sit in your favorite chair and make motorcycle noises and do mock righthand clutching. You'll look like a prat but you'll see it makes sense.
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 01 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'd end up in a Hospital, riding with the clutch lever on the right hand side. I'm far too familiar with the ''standard'' setup, so in an emergency situation, I'd probably grab the left handle bar lever (your brake) and gentle squeze the right handle bar lever (your clutch). Kind of like my first time driving a automatic gearbox car. I accidentaly used my left foot on the brake pedal, mistaking it for the clutch, when manouvering in tight spaces and driving the car in a slow moving traffic.

Just like with anything, it's only a matter of getting used to it, I suppose. But it's when you forget and/or you have to make a split second decision, that would worry me. The car I drove had ABS, ESP and other toys, so it'd be quite safe even at high speed regardless of my input errors. A motorcycle with none of that, well, that could be fun.
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 01 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what you mean. At first it seems like a disaster waiting to happen. But I once rode somebody's old Harley with a foot clutch and hand change for a day and got used to it in no time. And when I have been on old Brit bikes it's not been much trouble to get used to the opposite gear and brake setup. And when driving a car you shift with your left hand anyway so it's maybe not as alien as it appears. I'm sure there will be brown trouser moments before I get used to it.
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 01 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a reason that a hand shift set ups are referred to as "suicide shift"

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PostPosted: 13:53 - 01 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put the clutch lever on the shifter.

https://www.xs400.com/media/suicide-shifter-with-hand-clutch-its-made-out-of-a-operating-lever-off-a-50s-printing-press.289/full
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 01 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen that done and never really fancied it. I remember watching somebody trying to pull away very badly across a bumpy field after accepting their trophy at a rally and it didn't look like fun. All the bouncing about made it hard to control the clutch lever.

Mind you when I was younger I did used to drive a John Deere "G" tractor sometimes and it had a clutch that was operated by just a long handle and it worked quite well. I absolutely loved that tractor and would gladly have one now as my personal vehicle, with gearing modifications for highway use.








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PostPosted: 18:58 - 01 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:
If you want to make a hand gear change, why not work out a way of using the left hand twistgrip to change gear (like on some mountain bikes) along with your foot clutch.


Pretty similar to old scooters?

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PostPosted: 21:23 - 01 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

To keep the bike safe, you have to be able to operate the clutch while still having both of your hands on the bars. Foot clutch?

If you fit the hydraulic clutch conversion kit (see picture below), you may quite easily get the line wherever you want. Thinking

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PostPosted: 23:31 - 01 Sep 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been looking at those little hydraulic things in the past. I was going to do one for my clutch and one for my rear brake but I never went through with the idea. I decided a clutch cable was good enough and I wasn't sure how good the rear brake idea would work so I stuck with the generic rod and pedal combination.
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