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Posted: 21:52 - 09 Sep 2017 Post subject: Securing non-bike luggage on a bike? |
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I'm not a fan of wearing a rucksack while riding, in case I come off and land on it (spinal injuries?)
So I was thinking of getting a gym bag, and strapping it to the pillion seat.
Would cam buckles be good enough to secure it?
(Ones like this: https://www.screwfix.com/p/cambuckle-tie-down-straps-2-5m-x-25mm-2-pack/87355 ____________________ '07 Honda CBF500 / '93 Vauxhall Astra (www.fb.com/2wdOffRoader) / '04 Vauxhall Movano
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Posted: 22:02 - 09 Sep 2017 Post subject: Re: Securing non-bike luggage on a bike? |
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Better: https://www.rokstraps.com/
A small cargo net is also useful to keep under your seat (eg https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282493254067 at £1.50)
I totally agree about not wanting to wear a rucksack, but any particular reason not to buy a bespoke tail-pack or seat bag, which would do the job much better than a gym bag? ____________________ KC100->CB100N->CB250RS--------->DL650AL2->R1200RS->R1250RS |
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Posted: 23:03 - 09 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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I'm not too worried about a dry bag, and the reason for going for a gym bag over motorbike specific gear is mainly cost related.
I had thought about bungies, but was unsure if they would be secure enough.
I also thought about 1" ratchet straps, but thought that might be overkill and crush stuff in the bag. ____________________ '07 Honda CBF500 / '93 Vauxhall Astra (www.fb.com/2wdOffRoader) / '04 Vauxhall Movano
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Posted: 23:24 - 09 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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Ted wrote: | I'm not too worried about a dry bag, and the reason for going for a gym bag over motorbike specific gear is mainly cost related.
I had thought about bungies, but was unsure if they would be secure enough.
I also thought about 1" ratchet straps, but thought that might be overkill and crush stuff in the bag. |
If cost is an issue then see the recommendations above for LOMO, it's stuff designed for Kayakers, it's not pretty, but it works and their 30l rucksack is cheaper than most gymbags, at less than £30, strap it to the seat, wear it like a rucksack when you get there, a gym bag won't last five minutes on the back of a bike. |
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Posted: 00:41 - 10 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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For a commute or similar, ROK straps or bungies - if they're just the right length - are fine.
I wouldn't use them for touring, I far prefer cam lock luggage straps for that, but that's because I like to throw the bike around a lot and and I wouldn't trust 20+kg of luggage not to budge without being tightened right down. Bungies are fine for waterproofs etc. on top. Cam straps are too much of a faff for a commute though.
Quote: | a gym bag won't last five minutes on the back of a bike. |
This isn't true - I've toured about 20k miles with a gym bag strapped on the back; to Spain three times, to Germany a couple of times, all the way to Croatia and back, to Scotland and back, and all around Ireland. I used rubble sacks to keep stuff both compartmentalized and dry. The bag ends up pretty dirty from spray, all it needs to do is hold stuff together when it's clamped down though. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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I wouldnt over complicate it - Bungees should be fine just get a pack from amazon and use a couple more than you really need. Cheap and cheerful.
Did the job for me for a trip around Normandy with a full dry bag. Rode through some hellish rain, did some French motorway speeds and even a few twisties... albeit it is hardly the quickest/niblest bike in the world.
Everything stayed in the right place.
(is it bungees or bungies?!) ____________________ Previous - Gilera DNA50 / XVS125 Dragstar/Honda CBR 600F/GSF 650 Bandit
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Posted: 06:50 - 10 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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I've never had a problem with wearing a backpack on a bike.... I've found they can offset your balance at anything over 140 (as I found out coming back from last years bbq ), the only thing I used a ratchet strap for was holding the CBR wheel on the back of the ninja and it was secure enough..... for everything else I just use cheap old Aldi bungee cords |
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plastic tub to catch the oil .. nice touch ... ____________________ Whatever I post I have no citation and no intention of providing one..
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Posted: 08:38 - 10 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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Yesterday and today I am on the bike , my kit is in a dry-bag inside a gym kit bag.
My gym kit bag is secured to my by a couple of bungee cargo nets and a couple of extra bungee straps.
It works well, no issues. ____________________ I am the sum total of my own existence, what went before makes me who I am now! |
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Posted: 09:06 - 10 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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Cheers guys!
Maybe I just need to trust bungees more! I've got loads of them, so will have a try.
Sports direct were selling bags for less than a tenner, I was going to try one of those.
I've got a couple of camlock straps I bought to move my kayak about, so might throw one in the bag just in case it does move. ____________________ '07 Honda CBF500 / '93 Vauxhall Astra (www.fb.com/2wdOffRoader) / '04 Vauxhall Movano
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Posted: 10:15 - 10 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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Just nipped into the local Sports Direct, £6.99, that'll do me...
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Posted: 10:30 - 10 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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Just do whatever takes your fancy.
I'm currently running a hipster waxed cotton bag on the Enfield, "secured" with a carbiner through a cable tie on one side, and a Poundland cable lock on the other. Yesterday it had a 7kg bag of catfud in it, although I did sling a bungie temporarily over it out of an over-abundance of caution.
The tail bag on my Ninja is secured with three long cable ties: one down each side to the footpeg hangers and one looped under the tail.
Both bags regularly carry laptops and grocery shopping, no drama. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Posted: 10:36 - 10 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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I think I've just been a bit paranoid about a bag falling off. I strap enough stuff to the roof of the car, and to trailers, that I should know what I'm doing by now. Lol ____________________ '07 Honda CBF500 / '93 Vauxhall Astra (www.fb.com/2wdOffRoader) / '04 Vauxhall Movano
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Posted: 11:58 - 10 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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The thing to do is make sure you secure it in such a way as if it comes off, it comes right off. So straps/bungees over it to hold it down but not round it to tether it on.
I once had a bag slip off the back and get eaten by the back wheel at 90mph.
It locked the wheel by the time I'd fishtailed down to 30mph and the bag was smoking and nearly on fire by the time I came to a halt. Took 3 of us to drag the smouldering remains out from between the wheel and the swingarm.
The main worry with bungees is self-injury as they are being put on and off. I have a mate who insists on helmet on, visor down before engaging in bungee related activities. In fairness, I have another mate who came within a few mm of losing an eye. He landed up with a proper shiner and a nasty cut over his cheekbone. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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