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Doovy |
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Posted: 10:16 - 14 Sep 2017 Post subject: And this is why you should regularly check wheel bearings... |
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Oops
Apparently, the bearings got inside and chewed shit to pieces. New front wheel needed along with bearings and spacer etc.
First symptom I felt was front brakes feeling a bit spongy and pulling back to the bar. Bled it a fair few times. Still no joy.
Within the space of a few rides, from the brakes feeling a bit limp (stiffens after a few grabs of the lever) I felt a wobble from the front with a scraping noise. Laid it up at home for a bit to investigate.
The next ride was to the bike shop as I didn't have the time / inclination to faff around to diagnose. Which is when they informed me of the devastation inside the wheel.
Brake issue was pads being pushed back into the caliper from front wheel wobble out of alignment.
inb4 #PoorObs #iPotatoed #derp ____________________ Yamaha RXS 100 > Honda CD 250 > Honda Hornet 600 > Honda CBR 600RR > Yamaha RXS 100 > Kawasaki ZX6R J2 > Yamaha FZ1 |
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Posted: 10:30 - 14 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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That's the sort of thing you might see on a trailer where it's hard to notice anything going wrong until it's getting hot or a bout to fall off.
I'm surprised a bike could be ridden with collapsed bearings and only suspect funny brakes |
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Posted: 10:53 - 14 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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Yeah, the ride to the workshop was the very worst it had been - front wheel all wobbly and the bars were having a mini-tankslapper at 30mph (didn't dare go faster) ____________________ Yamaha RXS 100 > Honda CD 250 > Honda Hornet 600 > Honda CBR 600RR > Yamaha RXS 100 > Kawasaki ZX6R J2 > Yamaha FZ1 |
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This must have taken quite some time to do that. I mean, you'd spend half an hour to manage this using a lathe. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Posted: 12:37 - 14 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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Been there etc.
https://i.imgur.com/3zU0uHr.jpg
When my rear bearing collapsed it destroyed the sprocket carrier in the process. |
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pompousporcup... World Chat Champion
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Posted: 12:44 - 14 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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wow thats petty bad
no idea how the bike was ridable with the bearing like that |
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Posted: 12:46 - 14 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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Nasty! Trouble with wheel bearing failures is, it doesn't happen gradually, although I was lucky to have one discovered to be just starting to go on my last full service, before any major damage could be done. Hadn't noticed anything through riding though.
When I had a rear fail on me on a previous bike, the first thing I noticed was the rear end starting to sway a bit on the motorway. I quickly realised that I had to get the bike pulled over, but even by then, it wasn't a pretty sight when the back wheel was removed to sort it. Fortunately, I did get away with just having to replace the bearings, but just a few seconds more...well, I don't like to think, at motorway speeds
My sympathy to your wallet, Doovy! ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Did you replace the engine afterwards? ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Posted: 12:59 - 14 Sep 2017 Post subject: Re: And this is why you should regularly check wheel bearing |
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Twatface wrote: | It's a relatively cheap fix you noob. Even cheaper if you DIY. |
Doovy wrote: |
Apparently, the bearings got inside and chewed shit to pieces. New front wheel needed along with bearings and spacer etc. |
Depends on how cheaply you can source a wheel I suppose. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 13:38 - 14 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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New front wheel was needed. Best condition one on ebay that I found is black. I currently have a black front wheel and silver rear. I didn't DIY.
I've now ordered the matching black rear.
In for a penny, in for a pound ____________________ Yamaha RXS 100 > Honda CD 250 > Honda Hornet 600 > Honda CBR 600RR > Yamaha RXS 100 > Kawasaki ZX6R J2 > Yamaha FZ1 |
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It seems Twatface was right; it is all relative! ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I had the a little rumble developing in my 1999 R1 front wheel.
Got the bearing out to find the inner race was literally disintegrating .
Could not feel much play or anything funky, just a little rumble .
That reminds me. Gxsr K1 track bike has some funky clicking noises going on with the front wheel... Bearings feel a little tight but should replace either way... just incase considering lol |
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Posted: 15:35 - 14 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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Catastrophic failure like that is where the worn races and balls chaff the softer material of the separator/cage which holds the balls apart and spaced out evenly. But this will be long after a periodic check would have shown wear.
I use a clock gauge on my wheels whenever I change tyres.
Once the cage is lost all the balls can then bunch up on one side of the races (to escape the load) and the inner and outer races then have nothing to stop them clashing together.
It can end in a lock-up and maybe putting your front teeth through your lip. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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My rear wheel bearings were failing regularly every 12,000 miles, coincidentally shortly after having new tyres fitted.
Strangely enough they've stopped failing ever since I started taking loose wheels to get new tyres fitted. I can't be sure that it was ham-fisted tyre fitters smashing my rear axle back in with a lump hammer that was causing the failures, but the axle on the CBF1000 is a pig to get all the spacers lined up.... I take my time and do it right.
I'm still on my original bearings for the front wheel so they're at a minimum of 65,000 miles if the previous owner changed them. 86,000 if they didn't. ____________________ 2007 CBF1000-ABS - Commuter heaven | 1994 CBR600FR - Awaiting defibrillation |
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Posted: 17:25 - 14 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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Been there.. large pothole was the final blow to what must have already been rusting/disintegrating. Took the carrier with it too.
https://puu.sh/xzDGl.JPG
Been giving the wheel internals a clean and a good re-grease every 6 months if I get the chance. ____________________ Previous : 09 Vanvan 125| 02' Sv650s || Current: 1999 Xj600n | 1992 DR650 RSE | 2005 Fazer 1000 |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 219 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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