Explain to me how DVLA registration works...I've been duped!

[JMmichaelson1]

I have a few questions about the registration of a bike/car in this country. see my thread about ignition key in "the Workshop".

So Yamaha manufacture a model of a bike say and they call it their 2011 model.
How many possible plates could it have?
Is this a quarterly thing then?
Jan-March 2011 60 plate
April-June 2011 11 plate
July-Sep 2011 61 plate
Oct-Dec 2011 12 plate

It's the only way I can think they do it...

Is this right then? To be honest I don't really get why they don't just label every vehicle made in 2011 an 11 plate...

importantly also- how do I stop myself making the same mistake and find out the correct model year before I buy a bike?
Thanks.

[grr666]

Say an unregistered bike sits in a showroom unsold for 10 years, what registration do you think it will get when it is
sold and registered? One from 10 years ago or whatever the current reg is at the time of sale???
Registered is the key word, with regard to registration number. Manufacture date is a completely different thing.
Chassis number cross check with the manufacturer gives you the manufacture date. My bike is a 2015 manufactured
model but was registered in late 2016 so it gets a 66 plate.
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[rpsmith79]

I'm not sure how you think you have been duped, but any vehicle could legally have any plate fitted to it making it look older than it is (private plates and the like), the only thing you cannot do if fit a plate to a vehicle making it appear newer than it actually is

But a lot (if not all) vehicle manufacturers these days use MY designations (Model Year) as most new models don't get release on 1st Jan each year

So a bike may have been designed and built in 2010 as a MY2010 bike, but not sold until April 2011, it is still a MY2010 bike, even though it will have a 2011 plate

Similarly, the latest design might not be released while Sept 2011, so the MY2011 bike could have the same reg plate as a MY2010 bike sold in the same month
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smells arcaney

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[stinkwheel]

[ScottT]

[Qyburn]

[rpsmith79]

[suburban myth]

Registration marks (51/02/52/03/53 etc etc etc) are dealt with in 6-month cycles. Sep-Feb and then Mar-Aug so a plate could have been issued in either Sep 2016 or Feb 2017 with the same prefix.

A model year will cover probably 5 or 6 cycles of registration periods, given that manufacturers usually update their offerings every 3 or so years. In this instance its possible to have a bike that is say a 2015 model registered in 2016 or 2017. Just because it was designed in 2015 it could have been sold in 2017. A 'plate will be issued at first registration relevant to the registration period at the time.

An age related plate will usually only be issued in the instance of something like an imported bike, which was built in say 2010, it'd have a plate relevant to any point in 2010.

[Johnnythefox]

[Polarbear]

How do you think car dealers get away with registering as brand new a car that has been sitting in the sea air at an unloading port for a year.
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[Bozzy.]

Was this a confirmed Arcane sighting?
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[stinkwheel]

[grr666]

He's properly special that one, I'm a little upset that I never sussed it and bothered to answer the question.
I'm off to have a word with myself.

[weasley]

I had a similar case. The mark 2 Honda CRX VTEC ceased production in September 1991. I had one that was first registered in December 1992 (K reg) and I was aware of a couple that had made it into 1993, one even getting out to an L reg. Having run my VIN past Honda UK I was confident mine was made if not on the last day of production, certainly in the last week. I only ever saw one other with a VIN numerically higher than mine (by 4), and I have been admin for the CRX-UK forum since the late 90s.

That said, how does anyone intelligent enough to pass a bike test and work out how to Internet not know how vehicle registration numbers work? Maybe something to pose to the next sock account that turns up.
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[Wonko The Sane]

[ThatDippyTwat]

[Shaft]

[grr666]

I'd concede that it's more worthwhile doing it with some marques/models than others.
Sounds like your experience is limited to British cars 30years ago (RIP). A car is supposed to be a premium high value item,
the UK car manufacturing industry managed to completely miss that point. There were maybe 3 or 4 British made cars
of that era that were something special, the rest were garbage on wheels, which is probably why the industry died
out in the UK. Well, that and the concerted attempts of the unions to sabotage production combined with a "workforce"
that built Friday cars every day (they weren't stood on a picket line) because the unions made sure they could get away
with it. If someone unearthed a load of new unregistered original Peugeot 205GTI's or Mark 1 Golfs GTis of the same
era in a forgotten warehouse somewhere, they could pretty much name their price and they would get it, even today.
That and let's not forget that far fewer people had cars then, and even fewer still were in the position to buy brand new.
That's not the case today, despite the cars costing far more than they used to, many more people have access to shiny new metal.
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[Shaft]

[Wonko The Sane]

[grr666]

[suburban myth]

[redeem ouzzer]

[P.]

Just enforce mobile verification for new accounts. Sorted.

In other news, thanks for the threat.