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willsie01 Derestricted Danger
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Posted: 07:27 - 20 Sep 2017 Post subject: Undroppable? |
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I've got a full licence from when I rode scooters (and because of the different licence rules when I did my test) and now looking to get a bike. Having had a ride on a BMW 700 and dropped it a few times at low speed it might be a good idea to start with something that's hopefully harder to drop? I'm hoping that doesn't have to be a 125.
Any suggestions...without too many embarrassing comments on my poor riding ability. |
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all bikes can be dropped if you don't hold them up properly ____________________ gilera runner vxr200 (chavped)
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An F700GS?
I find my "650" (same bike, essentially) notably stable at low speeds. It was the very first thing that struck me when I got on it and pulled away into an effortless NEET FEAT U-turn.
You're going to find it tricky to find anything better. The NC700/750 apparently carries its weight even lower, but... then you're riding an NC7x0.
Sorry, but the problem with your bike is between the bars and the seat. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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The new Z650s are supposed to have a low centre of gravity, the school I am doing my advanced with use them and they
very different to the ER6 bikes they replaced. Low seat height as well as being lighter than the ER6. I'm looking forward
to having a try of one. Just to see for myself. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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Then go to a local bike school and have a few refresher hours with an instructor. Money well spent.
Better that than becoming a middle aged statistic. But it's your arse, so up to you. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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come green laning with me, you'll soon be dropping your bike like a pro |
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Get a Carver. More fun than you can spit at, lean as far as you like and impossible to drop.
Bit pricey though... ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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willsie01 wrote: | Regarding the "problem between the bars and the seat": well, yes, I did mention my poor riding ability in my post. |
If you sort that, it'll transfer to all new bikes that you get, free of charge.
You're likely suffering from lack of confidence rather than ability. Plenty of steady revs, control the speed using the clutch, and using the rear brake helps but isn't really necessary on a GS. You'll get it. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Avoid heavy bikes |
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willsie01 wrote: | No argument: but not all things are equal.
I know from my own experience of never having dropped anything on 2 wheels before, including small engined bikes, that not all machines have the same inherent stability. |
Th 'stability' they have comes from intertia.. how heavy they are and how fast they are going. Heavier a bike, faster you go, the more inertia they have, so the more 'stability'.
The design can hep a it, but cat defy physics... and scooters? Well, you slap the engine in the back and take all the weight off the front wheel.. then you give it the diddiest wheels you can... perversely the design is making them abut as unstanble as they can be!
The issue isn't 'stability' is manageability. All bikes at low-speed will tend to topple... it's not a question of technology but one of technique....
Go look at U-Tube vids of Yank Bike Cops doing Moto-Gym-Khana on Harleys!
If YOU cant get a bike to do what want without falling over, then it is not the bikes fault, but yours.... try another bke, and it may be a bit less likely to fall over, but t's still not the bike's problem, but yours! Crack the technique, and confidence, you shouldn't topple on anything....
You may have passed tests on a scooter, BUT, you got a ride what you like licence... you SHOULD be able to ride what you like...
I'd suggest you look at a back-to bikes course or similar, and lots and lots of practice to get your eye back in and confidence up. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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Tyre pressures are worth a shout. You'll have been told to check them before every ride on your CBT, so feel free to put that into practice.
Although OP is already dead, obvs. Ride out, etc. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I ride with my pressures "too low", I have them where I want them, bike doesn't feel right at "correct" pressure maybe correct pressure is for stock tyre though |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 205 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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