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Lord Percy wrote: |
Funny how much you care about this event in particular, out of all the violent 'acts of war' that happen across the world every day, pulling out your bleeding heart for the poor defenseless Japanese people on the other side of the planet. Almost as if your only source of news is the right wing press. |
Where did I say I cared about it more than any other act of aggression?
All I'm drawing attention to is your ridiculous view, that firing a test missile over a neighbouring country, who are seen as an enemy, is just part and parcel of everyday life.
Imagine if it was your home town which the untested, development, non finished missile flew over without warning or any knowledge of whether it was armed or where it was programmed to land.
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I also believe they can intercept the missiles from NK, but they know the trajectory so leave them. |
That is what they want you to think.
THAAD is not the be all and end all in missile defence systems. The US knows this as do NK, therefore the US will not employ THAAD until armegeddon is breaking out and NK will keep lobbing missiles in the hope that the US employs THAAD.
If THAAD were to be employed and successful in bringing down a missile NK would have to look at other aggression methods as lobbing missiles would obviously be futile, should it fail the US would be the global laughing stock.
I don't often agree with mpd72 but one country lobbing missiles over another is not the done thing, even if said missile lands in the sea. Everybody, especially us peace loving, tree hugging, snowflakes should find that repugnant.
Your earlier diagram shows perfectly the trajectory of both missiles over Japan, the arc describes how it goes up and down, the gray shadow lines show which bits of Japan they passed over. Fairly easy to understand, no? ____________________ Make mine a Corona. |
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mentalboy wrote: | M.C wrote: |
I also believe they can intercept the missiles from NK, but they know the trajectory so leave them. |
That is what they want you to think.
THAAD is not the be all and end all in missile defence systems. The US knows this as do NK, therefore the US will not employ THAAD until armegeddon is breaking out and NK will keep lobbing missiles in the hope that the US employs THAAD.
If THAAD were to be employed and successful in bringing down a missile NK would have to look at other aggression methods as lobbing missiles would obviously be futile, should it fail the US would be the global laughing stock.
I don't often agree with mpd72 but one country lobbing missiles over another is not the done thing, even if said missile lands in the sea. Everybody, especially us peace loving, tree hugging, snowflakes should find that repugnant.
Your earlier diagram shows perfectly the trajectory of both missiles over Japan, the arc describes how it goes up and down, the gray shadow lines show which bits of Japan they passed over. Fairly easy to understand, no? |
So you're trolling Trump with the range of your missiles, which direction exactly would you fire them? In the direction of South Korea where they're already permanently aimed at each other?
Also read the text around the picture A country invaded another (not for the first time), the whole world saw no threat in flying civilians over an active warzone, and then when the inevitable happened the perpetrators got away with it scot-free.
Yet we're outraged at a fat kid giving his best Dr Evil impression? |
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The front row there are the biggest, healthiest, most well-fed looking proles that they could herd together.
What if we treated North Korea as a humanitarian crisis, rather than a military one? Flooded it with aid, bombed it with food packages?
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So what you're saying is NK having a handful of nukes is instantly more of a horror than any other country having them.
This is actually another aspect to the absurdity of how people react to the North Korea 'crisis'. For some reason it's perfectly fine for a select few 'important' countries to have nukes. They have authority and know how to handle such things. But NK having them is a massive risk because the entire leadership is clearly too stupid and crazy to know the dangers of inciting nuclear war? |
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Plot Twist; Lord Percy is Kim.
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Lord Percy wrote: | So what you're saying is NK having a handful of nukes is instantly more of a horror than any other country having them.
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Yes, he's a mad as batshit, megalomaniac, communist dictator who's ordered the death of members of his own family, including his uncle and half brother, for his own political gain.
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Lord Percy wrote: | So what you're saying is NK having a handful of nukes is instantly more of a horror than any other country having them. |
Yes.
Lord Percy wrote: | But NK having them is a massive risk because the entire leadership is clearly too stupid and crazy to know the dangers of inciting nuclear war? |
They're very clever chaps.
There are a couple of problems.
First, that the Readership is utterly ruthless and have a genuine contempt for human life, based on the way that they treat their own people and indeed families.
Second, that when the regime does fall, it may go down nuking. Or the successor might be even worse, although I find it hard to imagine what that would look like islam. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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jnw010 wrote: |
At the height of the cold war between the US and USSR it was widely believed that the world would end in an irradiated fireball. Normal people genuinely thought it could happen. It would seem to have become accepted that developed nations really have nothing to gain and a lot to lose by taking that path and so the concern on that front has diminished. |
So you didn't read this then, which I posted on page 1:
Lord Percy wrote: | Just seen an interesting Quora response to the question, " How close are we to war with North Korea?" - by a bloke whose dad was a US ambassador to the UN with a focus on nuclear nonproliferation.
TL;DR: Not that close to war, but everyone's getting a bit tetchy, and the reason it's got this way is because the US is running out of options for getting what it wants. |
The slightly longer TL;DR of that article is that the US is basically at the final stage of its usual strategic path to get a country to do what it wants. At first it's all the usual diplomacy, then trying to bend over a bit to see if some accommodation can be made, then when all else fails they send the tanks in. So who's the aggressor here, and who's increasing the risk of thermonuclear war?
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First, that the Readership is utterly ruthless and have a genuine contempt for human life, based on the way that they treat their own people and indeed families. |
I suspect the North Koreans have reasons to think similar of their number one enemy as well.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Prisoners_world_map_png2.png/1280px-Prisoners_world_map_png2.png
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You really are naive if you think he's a nice chap and should be allowed to play with nuclear arms. |
You really are naive for seeing it as such a clear case of good vs evil, and for thinking Donald "rough those protestors up a bit, my lawyers will deal with the consequences" Trump, leader of the United States of 'Operation Enduring Freedom' America, is any better.
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Second, that when the regime does fall, it may go down nuking. Or the successor might be even worse, although I find it hard to imagine what that would look like islam. |
Perhaps, but what would cause such a thing to happen?
And why didn't Russia nuke the hell out of the planet when the Soviet Union collapsed? Why aren't you extending the same assumption of common human decency to the North Koreans? |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 214 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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