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Posted: 19:33 - 22 Sep 2017 Post subject: Shed - How do insulate plz |
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How do BCF.
I've just had a big wooden shed built. I know, I know; minus man points for not building it myself.
It's timber, got a roller shutter door on the front, a side door and an apex roof. 10 x 16 ft.
I want to insulate that badboy.
The "big" gap between the roller door and the front of the shed should be filled somehow, any tips? I can add photos if it's not clear?
Onto the roof, it's onduline sheet things over MDF boards. There's air gaps at the ends of the sheets, with guttering and stuff to catch the run off. What would be the best way to "seal" that while maintaining ventilation?
Those two points are probably best to attack first. Then there's the concrete floor and the walls.
For the walls, supposedly you can use vapour barriers against the timber then attach the insulation, then board over that, any recommendations on those materials?
Floor, well it's unsealed concrete right now but I'm thinking of just getting some plastic tiles to withstand stands and any oil drips etc but recommendations again welcome.
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I'll have a look at that seconds website.
So a good start could be to just ply the inside to give me an air gap for insulation? I'm eventually going to put in a small coal stove aswell so would like to make this insulation keep that heat in quite well.
Has anybody used these plastic barrier sheeting? I mean if it's a case of any old sheeting, I have my own 5 storey PVC calender at work so I can knock some up but if it's special as to allow moisture through I'll have to buy some "proper" stuff.
Quite enjoying my Timber Garage. Especially if it makes HT envious ____________________ I'm Sam; Northern, Ginger, Lover
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My shed has roof insulation in between the wall and roof studs and then ply-board covering the whole interior.
The doors are glass panels so i've put some old curtains up, spaced with baton and put some sheet mdf over the curtains.
It looks from the outside like a summerhouse with curtains, but the doors are solid.
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just build a smaller shed inside it |
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DrSnoosnoo wrote: | I'll have a look at that seconds website.
So a good start could be to just ply the inside to give me an air gap for insulation? I'm eventually going to put in a small coal stove aswell so would like to make this insulation keep that heat in quite well.
Has anybody used these plastic barrier sheeting? I mean if it's a case of any old sheeting, I have my own 5 storey PVC calender at work so I can knock some up but if it's special as to allow moisture through I'll have to buy some "proper" stuff.
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I drilled 1 inch holes through the bottom panels on the back wall of my pre fad
B garage and fitted fancy lucre style vents at the top apex.
For the place to stay dry one must ensure It is ventilated.
Insulate to keep your heat in and ventilate to allow moisture out.
And carbon fuels will add maisturento then space as they burn.
Coal, gas, oil, etc.
As I said plywood is feckin expensive when compared to gyproc type platter boards. And you can sometime find Rockwool on special in places wot sell it.
It will not be a cheap adventure but the rewards in the bleak mid winter are awsumness. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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I'd use a decent oil filled electric rad or two. My outbuilding will be starting construction soon, that's what I'll have
out there when I do the interior. Hard wired in on a couple of timer/switched spurs. I have one in my downstairs
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Mr Snoo; G'day.
If I had money to put into that lovely cavernous box of awesome, I would put it into security first. Like, make that shit Fort Knox x 9000.
Or within said box, put a damn secure ground anchor for the bike to be attached to.
As for insulation; i'd be buying 2" thick sheets of foam board. Or similar. Maybe use "candy floss insulation" in the frame gaps and then add in inner skin. Something like that.
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Posted: 14:33 - 24 Sep 2017 Post subject: Re: Shed - How do insulate plz |
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Shed envy intensifies !
I have to squeeze my bike into a 6X8 |
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Posted: 08:59 - 25 Sep 2017 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies everyone. Haven't been too internet active this weekend.
I do have a ground anchor, it was put in when the base was being made, you can't see it in the picture because it's to the front left of the picture, hiding behind the wall.
I was stupid really, didn't get myself organised so I didn't lay an electrickery cable.
This is probably aimed at Grrrrrrrr because he's a builder/man. What type of cable would I need if I wanted to run a cable alongside the wall at the side of the house and then bridge it from the shed eaves to the kitchen extension. The span is about 5/600 mm. I have another photo I can put up to show the gap better.
I was considering a very small coal stove, with sufficiently insulated flue with protection for the wooden walls around it but I'll probably chuck the idea if I get power sorted.
I don't really want to put a floor on, I want to be able to drive into it with the car, only either end so I can do bits on that in the dry too, if the mood takes me. ____________________ I'm Sam; Northern, Ginger, Lover
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Since you've spent decent money so far, you may as well have it done right. So get a sparks in and get some
armoured core cable run to your fuse board indoors then the run buried and fed up into your structure rather than
doing something temporary. If you have a separate breaker board/ consumer unit inside the structure then it
can have separate circuits for lighting and power.
It's an expense I will be having myself soon. Currently my shed has a temporary power supply but I've been waiting
for an opportune moment to spend the dough and since the back garden is going to be like the somme anyway while
the new builds is in progress, it seems a good time to power up the shed properly. The power supply I will be having
put in will split so it can run both my shed and her pole studio. I'd also like some lighting in the back garden when I've finished
making it look decent again. You can DIY this relatively simply, but the work will still need signing off. Sometimes it's better
to get someone in, luckily I have a tame sparks at my disposal so it shouldn't cost too much. You could save money by
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grr666 wrote: | Since you've spent decent money so far, you may as well have it done right. So get a sparks in and get some
armoured core cable run to your fuse board indoors then the run buried and fed up into your structure rather than
doing something temporary. If you have a separate breaker board/ consumer unit inside the structure then it
can have separate circuits for lighting and power.
It's an expense I will be having myself soon. Currently my shed has a temporary power supply but I've been waiting
for an opportune moment to spend the dough and since the back garden is going to be like the somme anyway while
the new builds is in progress, it seems a good time to power up the shed properly. The power supply I will be having
put in will split so it can run both my shed and her pole studio. I'd also like some lighting in the back garden when I've finished
making it look decent again. You can DIY this relatively simply, but the work will still need signing off. Sometimes it's better
to get someone in, luckily I have a tame sparks at my disposal so it shouldn't cost too much. You could save money by
running/hiding the cable yourself and just getting someone in to connect it up. | Bolded for emphasis. This will bite you HARD in the bum if you don't do it and you ever try to sell your house... |
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When I wired my shed, I considered burying cable but in the end I didn't think it was worth the cost or hassle.
I wired up the inside of the shed with a small 2 breaker consumer unit, one circuit for lights and one circuit for sockets. I then ran some arctic cable with a standard plug on the end from an external waterproof socket on the house to the shed, drilled a hole in the shed and wired it into the consumer unit.
Wasn't particularly hard but it was certainly satisfying. Worse case scenario is you'll blow a fuse or trip a breaker in the house. ____________________ DRZ400-SM
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Old Thread Alert!
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