Advice needed - taking my GPZ9's wheels off

Ninja · Caption Abuser Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Karma :

Hi - the GPZ needs a new set of tyres so I want to take the wheels off the bike to take them to the tyre place (also using the exercise to get used to spannering on the bike).
I would probably be able to do this easily enough, but have never taken the wheels off a bike before - as I don't have a workshop manual yet would anybody be able to give me some basic instructions? I'd appreciate it - especially if there's any specific things you have to do with the eccentric-cam adjusters on the rear.

Cheers in advance Thumbs Up

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Big Pete · Spanner Monkey Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Karma :

get a manual (ebay is a good source) otherwise when you put it back together you will be pissing about for ages working out which spacer goes where.
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NickD · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Karma :

As you take each wheel off, make a diagram of each spindle. Number each spacer with a small marker pen, and write the number in the correct place on the diagram. Then when the wheel goes back on, just follow the diagram. Also when the wheel is off, put the spacers, in the correct order on the spindle, you're a lot less likely to lose them this way.
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Ninja · Caption Abuser Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Karma :

thank you guys Thumbs Up

@Big Pete - nowhere seems to stock the GPZ900R (or derivatives) manual and the tyres arrive tomorrow . . .
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Ninja · Caption Abuser Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Karma :

hoho - I don't suppose anyone has torque settings available?
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Ninja · Caption Abuser Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Karma :

haha - cheers - I saw it earlier as I looked for a manual - I wonder if he'd take offence if I asked him to 'demonstrate' it works by emailing me copies of the relevant pages and torque settings . . . Laughing

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Big Pete · Spanner Monkey Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Karma :

Try your local library for a manual, mine has loads, old and new. If you want to get some spannering practice (from which I assume your don`t do much now) you are going to need a decent manual sooner or later.
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NickD · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Karma :

There also a guy on ebay known as 'Ficheman'. Who sells the microfice for most models, on disc. I bought one for mine and it's pretty good.
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Ninja · Caption Abuser Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Karma :

The Library! - Genius! - The most overlooked resource of the day/ week/ month/ year . . .

I'm happy to do any kind of work really and think I'm competent enough; I just don't want any dodgy surprises as 'quirky' bits spring apart in my hand . . . Wink

. . . or find that I've been resolutely trying my hardest to tighten a reverse thread bolt.

Ta
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ZRX61 · Victor Meldrew Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Karma :

Assuming bike is on the main stand:
Loosen the eccentric pinch bolts
Rotate the eccentrics forwards to get max slack in the chain
Re-tighten pinch bolts
Stick some wood under the wheel so the tire is just touching it.
Remove chain guard
Lift chain off rear sprocket & move it over to the left
Remove the axle nut (should be on the right side)
Slide the axle out
Pull wheel backwards
remove the spacers on each side of the wheel & remember where they go.....
& then wander off to tire shop

& to quote Kawasaki: "Assembley is the reverse of disassembley"

If ya have a washer left over you failed the test.......

.. it goes under the axle nut on the right side.

any questions? Smile

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ZRX61 · Victor Meldrew Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Karma :

Ninja · Caption Abuser Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Karma :

Thanks pops. I took both calipers off the front as they didn't seem to want to clear the wheel rim as it tried to get past. I've also learned a few lessons already!

1)The bike will not stay on the mainstand without the front wheel - thinking I could just rest the forks on the floor while I would work on rear? - nope, as I lowered the front to leave it, the nose down angle was too much and the bike simply fell forward, cracking the bellypan . . .

2)Only use tools for the manner in which they were designed; a screwdriver does not make a good lever - I found to the detriment of my knuckles and a trip to casualty. I had a hex socket on each side of the rear spindle to undo them, contra rotate style, the right was a proper ratchet driver with socket/ bit and the left was a bit with a hole through for a lever; my screwdriver, it snapped without much provocation and sliced my knuckles quite deeply.

3)Yes, the rear caliper slide bolt needs to be loosened to allow the eccentrics movement.

Using the pinch bolts to secure each side - what a stroke of 'simplistic' genius!

Is regular LM grease fine for lubing the spindles when they go back on?

S'gonna be a couple of days before I get enough mobility back in my fingers to finish the job . . . what a plank!

ZRX61 · Victor Meldrew Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Karma :

Rear: The smaller hex is the spindle, the larger one is the nut so at elast we know the last guy put it back in the right way, the spindle comes out on the chain side. LM grease is fine for the spindles.
As for the rear caliper nut: Some people just leave it a bit loose anyway. It ain';t like it will fall off as it's supposed to be a nyloc nut anyway.. & the bolt should have a pin thru it outboard of the nut..

Front: ya suposed to put something under the front of the engine to keep it balanced, a pile of 4x8's works. Isn't hindsight wonderful?

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