Car Topic: Removing Old Tyres

[NeverAgain]

The alloy wheels on my car are in terrible condition and are in need of refurbishment. I've got a good price to refurbish them, but only if they come without tyres.

Is it easy enough to remove old tyres from a car wheel? I change motorbike tyres by hand. Is it similar levels of difficulty? Local garages want £10 each wheel to remove.

[rpsmith79]

[Evil Hans]

Obviously I don't know the full story here, but on the face of it I'd be a little concerned about the ability level of a wheel refurbishment company that can't remove tyres.
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[rpsmith79]

[groovylee]

in theory, it's a piece of piss.

in reality, it's a pain in the arse.

you'll want a bead breaker, some good tyre levers, and a lot of time to bleed, cry and sweat.

i have done plenty by hand, on steel wheels that i dont really care about, and it truly is a massive ballache.

and dont try to cut them off with an angle grinder. you will burn yourself with a massive glob of red hot rubber

i would be paying somewhere to take them off, but not £10 a pop!
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[TaffyTDM]

Turn up to kwik fit on a Saturday or Sunday, look for the tyremonkey that smells the most of the weed, offer him a tenner in his pocket when out of earshot of the office to take all 4 off inbetween his task sheet. Tell him there's another tenner in it when they need to go back on and he will start dreaming of the spliff and be ready to go as soon as you pull in the next week.

[grr666]

^^^ That's what I did when I had some alloys refurbed at a general powdercoaters.
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I've got a pneumatic bead breaker which also clamps the wheel.
I was happy taking tyres on and off scabby alloys with a specific alloy bar (that has plastic ends).

Wouldn't want to risk putting them back on freshly refurbished alloys.

Did new tyres on my caravan steel wheels with the bike kit - was a bit more faff putting new ones back on as I got commercial ones that were a bit stiffer, but think I ended up saving £20 a wheel, which is definitely worth the time it took me (realistically, less than the time it'd have taken me to get them somewhere anyway.)

[johnsmith222]

Car tyres are definitely harder than bike tyres, if you're using the same tools you use for bike tyres.

I use this:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SEALEY-Manual-Tyre-Machine-Changer-Bar-Alloy-Aluminium-Wheel-Car-Bike-TC963-/322190813928?epid=1405500977&hash=item4b0411aae8:g:UrwAAOSwygJXhiMt

and this:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tyre-Changer-Wheel-Bead-Breaker-Mount-Car-Bike-Manual-Portable-Tire-Hand-Machine-/122059398201?hash=item1c6b4e9c39:g:o7sAAOSw5cNYEb0X

bolted to a wooden pallet.

Has had great success with 225/45 17" tyres, and the 15 or 16 inch ones on a honda jazz.

I wouldn't recommend for low profile tyres, and they say the tyre changer isn't for any bigger than 16" rims, but you can do 17s. I wouldn't try 18s tbh.

Also, you need to use rags to stop your rims getting scratched (not difficult).

[Evil Hans]

[arry]

It's one of those that you'll think £40 is worth saving on, and then quickly realise it isn't when you've sweated over it for hours and end up taking them to the shop anyway.

[Hong Kong Phooey]

In desperate times this had worked for me.

You break the bead using the weight of the car, jack it up and use a plank under the tyre lined up with the edge of the alloy lay on some cardboard to protect it. Lower the car slowly. Use soapy water to help it free up.

Garden hose slit lengthways to protect the rim when levering.

Obviously some size tyres are easier than others, don't bother if they're stupidly low profile.
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[Polarbear]

Rather than start a new thread as it's related, where can you get rid of tyres? I have a wheel from some car I owned in my garage and neither the local tip or the bin men will take it.
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[rpsmith79]

[arry]

[DrSnoosnoo]

[Evil Hans]

[johnsmith222]

[P.]

Your closest speed camera and 500ml of petrol will take them.

[DrDonnyBrago]

[Hawkeye1250FA]

[Ted]

I tried years ago to change tyres, even with some long tyre levers it was a pain.

I've got manual tyre changer now, but even then I wouldn't like to try it on alloys.

Did you get a price for 4, or did you just ask how much to remove and dispose of a tyre?
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When I got prices, doing more wouldn't be less ... neither would bringing in loose wheels and them doing them when they've got a spare minute etc.

[Ted]

Doesn't sound like you've picked the best garage to be honest. They should be able to give a discount for 4 wheels, and for them being off the car.

Might be that they just want to sell you tyres. If you are buying tyres through them, ask if you pay for them now, will they take the old tyres off now, you can get them re-conned, then bring them back in a week or so for the new tyres to be fitted and balanced...
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