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Scam the scammers and chuckle all the way to the PayPal bank |
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Play fair, suck it up, it's the British way |
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I prefer to be honestly ripped off on AliExpress |
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Carefully vet every seller, report to eBay, add them to your blocked buyers list and hope that stops them showing as sellers, then go through page after page of listings to find the first one that might actually be located in the UK (joke option) |
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Posted: 07:57 - 18 Oct 2017 Post subject: Scamming scammers |
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Search eBay, BIN, lowest price, UK only.
The eleventeen hundred top hits are seller JoyGoodFun49212, item "located" in Birmingham, but the seller address is Wun Hung Low province in China, with a 2 week delivery time.
Order stuffs.
Stuffs arrives two weeks later via ChinaPost.
File a "not received, refund"
"Dear Friend, delivery not in control please to wait two more days we very sure it arrive then give 5 star most important."
Wait 8 days, hit HALP! button, eBay refunds.
1-star and neg the scammer.
I'm not asking if I should do it, I do do it, fairly regularly now, and with no qualms at all after the first time I fell for it.
But I'm mildly intrigued as to whether I'm ahead of the morality curve on this one. Would you? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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It's bloody easy to get caught if you don't read it properly and they have a nice big Union Jack in the corner of their picture
I've been caught out a couple of times. The item has arrived in the end but if you are desperate for it.....
Well, nowadays if I am desperate for something I use Amazon Prime and take the few quid extra hit. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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There is a lower level of scum than that. The lying about being in the UK ones can be avoided by paying a little attention to the delivery dates.
It's drop fucking shippers that wind me up.
The drop-shipping isn't really the issue, it's the fact they don't physically HAVE the thing they are selling so it can later turn out the people they are drop-shipping through don't have it either or the price they thought they could get it for has changed.
They invariably mark the fucker as dispatched as soon as they get the order (yeah, you dispatched it at 10pm on Sunday, right) then, when it turns out it either can't be found or is more expensive than they thought, send you a message 48h later cancelling your order and claiming the item has been lost by the courier (A courier will never report a package as lost on account of it being lost, they only know it's lost when the person expecting it doesn't receive it). Or worse, they send an "alternative".
This happens most often with something that is in short supply, you search and search and eventually find someone who has one, order it then 48h later get this bullshit.
I got an ebay order in an amazon packet the other day! ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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stinkwheel wrote: | The lying about being in the UK ones can be avoided by paying a little attention to the delivery dates. |
Sure, they're not that hard to avoid, once you've opened the listing. But (absent Fast and Free listings) you have to do so to figure out that they're lying liars. eBay doesn't provide any tools to filter out the "Birmingham, China" scammers from the search results. And they don't give a stuff about them either, as long as they keep creaming their fees.
If buyers weren't such a bunch of fannies either it would help, but the amount of positive feedback with "Took four weeks to arrive" really winds me up. What do people think neutral and negative is for, if not that?
stinkwheel wrote: | I got an ebay order in an amazon packet the other day! |
Huh, that is indeed becoming a Thing. I've spotted the same distinctive stuff advertised on Amazon and on eBay, with a £SOME premium on the eBay listing. It's fairly obvious that they're just reselling the Amazon stock, but what do? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Rogerborg wrote: | stinkwheel wrote: | The lying about being in the UK ones can be avoided by paying a little attention to the delivery dates. |
Sure, they're not that hard to avoid, once you've opened the listing. But (absent Fast and Free listings) you have to do so to figure out that they're lying liars. eBay doesn't provide any tools to filter out the "Birmingham, China" scammers from the search results. And they don't give a stuff about them either, as long as they keep creaming their fees.
If buyers weren't such a bunch of fannies either it would help, but the amount of positive feedback with "Took four weeks to arrive" really winds me up. What do people think neutral and negative is for, if not that?
stinkwheel wrote: | I got an ebay order in an amazon packet the other day! |
Huh, that is indeed becoming a Thing. I've spotted the same distinctive stuff advertised on Amazon and on eBay, with a £SOME premium on the eBay listing. It's fairly obvious that they're just reselling the Amazon stock, but what do? |
Buy from amazon? ____________________ Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
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Currently waiting on a refund for something which didn't arrive by the due date, then they changed the date and it still never arrived! So here I sit for 3 weeks to get a refund whilst they ignore my emails and rude text messages. I only posted cos Stinkwheel hit the nail on the head about the despatch time. 10.46pm on a Fri.
I hope they're not overly fond of their number.. |
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M.C wrote: | Sometimes they're Chinese sellers with a UK distributor. |
Which is fine, but there seems to be more and more blatant Charlie Scams out there. Not many of them yet have the brass neck to put a Union flag and "UK stock" on their images though. Yet.
M.C wrote: | [Stuff is] making shopping on eBay a real chore. |
Mmm, it used to be my go-to, but given their total disinterest in cracking down on any of this buyer-hostile bollocks, now I'm thinking I might as well take a punt on AliExpress or Amazon instead.
The only thing that keeps me coming back to eBay is the ease of getting free stuff from shysters. I wonder how long that will be sustainable. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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So what's the problem? Amazon made a sale, so did the E-bay markup seller, and you win too because you only wanted one shopping basket... |
The problem is the drop-shipper has absolutely no idea if the item in question was still in stock and at the same price on Amazon at the point I bought it on ebay. They've just thrown up loads of sales on ebay and wait for someone to click.
So say it was something that had sold out or the price had gone up beyond the price I have already paid? This happens more often than you think. For example, I might have already tried amazon, found they were sold out and thought "I'll see if anyone on ebay has one."
They mark every sale as dispatched as soon as they see it, regardless. I, as the customer, assume it's on its way, done and dusted. They then try to order it, can't and 24 to 48h after I had a message saying the item is dispatched, I get a cock and bull story about how the courier has lost/damaged the item but it's ok, I've done you a refund. So I've waited 2 days and now have to wait ANOTHER 2 days for a different one to arrive.
This has happened to me on multiple occasions. Two of them blocked me at the same time as they cancelled the sale, a virtual equivalent of sitting with your fingers in your ears going "Lalalala" so they can't hear your complaint. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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I have used Ali Express for a few things and I have not been skunked yet.
I found their correspondance vely encoulaging too.
I have also used Ebay and Amazon (the Bastirts) and been stiffed a couple of times over several years.
With Ebay it is important to vet sellers by reviews but read between the lines.
There is a lot of psychological imbalance in the world at large one has to filter this a bit.
Likewise with Amazon (the Bastirts) as they do not give a flying fcuk what you get as long as they get there %-ages.
ALi Express. Cheap, Shite for Cheap Plices.
(They do an excellent line in Adult gear too.) ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 190 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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