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Hawkeye1250FA
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Is it just old people that dont like being overtaken?? Reply with quote

I overtake a lot of people in cars on my commute

i.e. Sat behind someone doing 54 in a 60 or 45 in a 50 etc.

Its no issue, It doesnt annoy me, I just overtake and get on with it. And for the most part they do the same.

However, it always seems that when its an old boy in his Honda, it always results in them having a fit with their main beam at me!

Anyone have any thoughts on it?

Im assuming its because they deem overtaking to be dangerous and no-one should do it.. But im unsure as Ive seen cars over take them and not get the flashy flashy treatment. Is it just the loud bikes they dont like?
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calm the fuck down.

It's your underlying rage that is clouding your thought process.

Or perhaps you are Hard of Thinking.

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PostPosted: 10:15 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Re: Is it just old people that dont like being overtaken?? Reply with quote

Hawkeye1250FA wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on it?

That we need to see some videos of incidents where this has happened, so that we can constructively critique your kitten murdering poor obs.
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PostPosted: 10:19 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha Smile

I do seem to remember several sqeaky meows. Perhaps he was simply warning me of the bag of kittens in the road...

Sorted, thread closed...

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PostPosted: 10:52 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hawkeye1250FA wrote:
Sorted, thread closed...


It's like Fisty all over again. Sad
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Re: Is it just old people that dont like being overtaken?? Reply with quote

Hawkeye1250FA wrote:
it always seems that when its an old boy in his Honda, it always results in them having a fit with their main beam at me!

[...]

he was

Wait, is this the same chap every time?
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's because they have no idea you are approaching until you are by their window at which point they cough out the Werthers Original and fill their Tena pad.

If it helps, my missus hates bikes overtaking her.
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Re: Is it just old people that dont like being overtaken?? Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

Wait, is this the same chap every time?


Without evidence to the contrary, I would have to concede that it is equally likely and unlikely.

I have no evidence to suggest that it isn't the same bloke and he just changes his car regularly.

Hope that helps. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 11:18 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Re: Is it just old people that dont like being overtaken?? Reply with quote

Hawkeye1250FA wrote:

However, it always seems that when its an old boy in his Honda, it always results in them having a fit with their main beam at me!

Anyone have any thoughts on it?


Ex biker saying GO FOR IT SON.....

FFS some folks must lead boring lives Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meh, some people seem to think that what they deem a safe and sensible speed should apply to everyone.

Most extreme case of this I've experienced was on my old commute.
Lovely summers day, 40 zone into an NSL that is dead straight for 3/4 mile and very wide. I open up and pass a couple of cars, half a mile away car starts flashing at me and sounding his horn. Then the vehicle crosses over to my side of the road to head on me.
I went right over to the verge as we passed and he was visibly raging, before he had to swerve back into his own lane to avoid head-oning the cars I'd overtaken.
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

jnw010 wrote:
Meh, some people seem to think that what they deem a safe and sensible speed should apply to everyone.

Most extreme case of this I've experienced was on my old commute.
Lovely summers day, 40 zone into an NSL that is dead straight for 3/4 mile and very wide. I open up and pass a couple of cars, half a mile away car starts flashing at me and sounding his horn. Then the vehicle crosses over to my side of the road to head on me.
I went right over to the verge as we passed and he was visibly raging, before he had to swerve back into his own lane to avoid head-oning the cars I'd overtaken.


Rolling Eyes

Ive never had anything that bad.

I have mixed dealings with Trucks. If im travelling the same way as them they (generally) see me coming better than cars do... And make more of an effort to move left.

But coming the other way, they seem to be the ones that love the horn and main beam. Even when I am fully over to my side3/4/5 hundred yards away from them.

Bizarre.
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it's everybody else's fault.

Got video?
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Yes, it's everybody else's fault.


If you say so? Cant remember anyone else saying that though until you just did?


Rogerborg wrote:


Got video?


No, it only records when I tell it to.
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're right, that was uncalled for.

Not all other road users are unreasonable, but all unreasonable road users seek you out in order to over-react to your perfectly safe overtakes.

That's the only explanation that makes sense.
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
You're right, that was uncalled for.

Not all other road users are unreasonable, but all unreasonable road users seek you out in order to over-react to your perfectly safe overtakes.

That's the only explanation that makes sense.


I'm sorry I'm lost now Smile

I do normally enjoy your witty take on the english language, but I am actually confused now.

Confused

Its old guys in hondas mainly, the majority (as I said) have no issue and carry on as normal. I wouldnt class that as "all" - And I didnt think I had?

Its an observation of a very small number of people in the general public that seem to take offense at motorbikes overtaking them.

Are you applying the logic of "If it doesnt happen to you, then it cant possibly happen to someone else unless its their own fault"

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PostPosted: 14:59 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why bother with whats going behind you after overtaking? Get a Ducati, you can't see fuck all in the mirrors, don't make sense until you're doing 80 so pass'em quick and concentrate on the road ahead.

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PostPosted: 15:00 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Git Racing wrote:
Why bother with whats going behind you after overtaking? Get a Ducati, you can't see fuck all in the mirrors, don't make sense until you're doing 80 so pass'em quick and concentrate on the road ahead.

OGR


Id love a Ducati, Its not a bike Id have classed as a commuter though?

I never said it bothered me, just an observation. his lights cant hurt me, and they progressively and quickly disappear into the distance Smile
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a couple cases where people have moved to intentionally block my filter route. (Before I had reached them, not while alongside)
- Ignore, overtake at next opportunity.

Occasionally people changing lanes without taking me into account.
- Their poor obs, not intentional.

Think I've been beeped/flashed once, but I was riding like a dick and deserved it.

If you are getting beeped/flashed on the regular, maybe its not them...

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Are you applying the logic of "If it doesnt happen to you, then it cant possibly happen to someone else unless its their own fault"

Yep, that'll be the one.
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

pudder wrote:

If you are getting beeped/flashed on the regular, maybe its not them...


I agree, I'm not getting beeped / flashed on the regular though, and as far as Im aware I never said that?

Regularly by the same sterotype, yes.

But regularly used in conjuction with time, no. Id say it happens once every 2 or 3 months, and its "nearly" always someone from the older generation in a volvo or honda.

It's just an observation based on that stereotype. I've got no concerns that its due to my own driving / riding faults. Thumbs Up If it were I'd have expected it from one of the prior 400 overtakes that month. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leave the oldiewonks alone.

Lots of them are grown men!! Shocked
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Leave the oldiewonks alone.

Lots of them are grown men!! Shocked


They are fucking pieces of shit if you ask me Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do find car drivers who I presume have never ridden a bike have no idea how quickly even a 500 commuter bike can accelerate and get past a line of cars.

If they did we might no have such a dangerous image with other road users.
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
I do find car drivers who I presume have never ridden a bike have no idea how quickly even a 500 commuter bike can accelerate and get past a line of cars.

I'm sure that's right. I've certainly noticed sometimes getting flashed at by oncoming vehicles while I'm executing a perfectly safe overtake; those drivers don't differentiate between me and a car in the same positionas me (which might well struggle to get back to the nearside in time to avoid a head-on...)
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hawkeye1250FA wrote:

They are fucking pieces of shit if you ask me Laughing

You're perhaps thinking of a different one of Ste's links! Shocked
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 19 Oct 2017    Post subject: Re: Is it just old people that dont like being overtaken?? Reply with quote

Hawkeye1250FA wrote:
Is it just the loud bikes they dont like?


Yes.
You are imposing your unnecessary noise into their space.
They probably live next door to some wanker who plays loud music alot and you come along and tip them over the headlight flashing edge of the abyss.
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