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| mpd72 wrote: | | Lord Percy wrote: |
Top comment, coming from the man whose educational experience amounts to that provided by a dotcom era training organisation cashing in on lost ex squaddies by offering lessons on how to screw computers together. You'll have to up your game and try a bloody lot harder if you want to sensibly discuss this topic with someone who's at least 6 years of understanding ahead of you.
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What experience do you have in the real world?
That course was over 20 years ago and was a 3 month residential course which enabled me to change career in my early 20's. I worked my way up to technical team leader on a multimillion pound contract at one of the top customers in London, shortly after starting my "screwing computers together course". You went back to school as an adult for years to dodge work.
I have 20 years worth of real work experience to add and now cover a wider range of hardware, software, hosting and networking than you'll ever get to by my age. I even have my own VOIP platform now. Let me know when you've successfully ran your own company for over 15 years and started paying UK tax.
You really are a know it all student twat. Say hello to Itchy and Jewlio for me. You add nothing of any interest to any post, other than shouting your own biased, obnoxious, inexperienced, naive, opinion as fact. |
Hahahaha
Do you want to publish your tax returns, or shall we? 
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| mpd72 wrote: | You add nothing of any interest to any post, other than shouting your own biased, obnoxious, inexperienced, naive, opinion as fact. |
Ha, ha, ha. Good one. Pot meet kettle.
Also you're showing the root of your problem here. You think it's a case of opinion vs opinion, but it isn't. Science is tried, tested, peer reviewed and, most importantly, willing to change if some new evidence comes along. It isn't how opinion really works. At best you could say it's the researched opinion of an entire planet of people with far better education and experience than you. You could call it biased, obnoxious, inexperienced and naive, but that would be your biased, obnoxious, inexperienced and naive opinion.
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Fukc Nigela has certainly let hersel' go. 
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Is that the one where he talked about measured temperatures being steady or down, which is fakenews because the "adjusted" temperatures still show a rise when you adjust them to show a rise?
BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRN (responsibly).
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| Lord Percy wrote: | | Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | Meanwhile Greenpeace, Leonardo Dicaprio (his cast including two POTUS and The Pope apparently), Al Gore, Percy et al are jetting around the world burning tons of fossil fuels. Until the preachers practice what they preach I don't anticipate the Plebian masses being convinced to change their lifestyles to save the current state of the planet even if they were able to. |
A classic response from those who think shifting the blame onto 'someone else' is the way to get around what's being discussed.
A handful of environmentalists flying around are exactly the sort of people who should be granted such benefits. |
When pondering such issues I always ask myself, "What do the actors and the rock stars think?"
Apart from the sly dig at your own air travels I was trying to suggest that right-on preaching by high rollers who once governed and could have done something about the issue but didn't, isn't likely to persuade the masses to walk to work, not heat their homes, reject subsidised air travel, buy diesels (oh, wait...). What are we supposed to do about this issue, assuming it's not too late? Maybe Leonardo had the answer but I haven't watched the film. |
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It's more that they talk a good game about how everyone needs to get by on less, while jetting around between one giant resource guzzling gated mansion and another.
Al Gore in particular profits from selling indulgences, and uses the money to buy ocean-adjacent property. He's pretty serial about not practising what he preaches.
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Hm, good point. Fact-checker folk agree: https://www.factcheck.org/2009/06/al-gores-mansion/
Still, it doesn't really get around the fact that people seem all too willing to wash their hands of something just because 'someone else' isn't performing as expected. |
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Pay no attention to the man fiddling the data behind the curtain.
The data are final and complete, the data need reviewing again, unless they don't, trust the data, until we change it, then double-trust it.
Us mere parishioners have to take this stuff on faith. When the priesthood are caught with their fingers in the choirboys, what are we to think? To whom can we turn for salvation from our sins?
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I think you are all missing the point here.
Until we start controlling (culling) the worlds population things won't get better, it's an absolute impossibility.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Population_curve.svg/350px-Population_curve.svg.png
If, as said in an earlier post, the populations of the places that soon can't grow crops do start migrating, arguing about who's to blame won't matter a fuck.
What we have seen in the last couple of years will be a drop in the ocean compared to what will happen.
Man the barricades, flood the tunnel and get ready for civilisation collapse.
I'm in a pot half empty mood today.
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https://www.thegwpf.org/matt-ridley-global-warming-versus-global-greening/
Viewed globally, we can sustain even the teeming, fecund masses of Africa, if we choose. It's really a question of whether we feed them beans or bullets.
We've been trying the former for some time, and all it's producing is more and more mouths.
Let's give war a chance, eh? I fancy our chances, in the short term.
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Foreign aid for a one off event may work, but when aid is constantly needed in an area, year after year, decade after decade, the aid is falsely supporting a population the land can't.
Starvation, disease and fighting over resources will always be present.
Withdraw the aid and Mtumba might not try to have a football team sized litter of offspring to fail to feed.
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OK, let me try to respond again, hopefully in a way which can't simply be dismissed by categorisation. Aside from reportage I'd like to know what the activists think we can practically do about climate change. How can societies bring about the required massive changes to the global economy when those economies are currently dependant on fossil fuels, there are no alternatives with the potential to take over, and possibly not enough time left anyway. Vote Green, I guess.
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| Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | can't simply be dismissed by categorisation. |
Your sort always say that.
| Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | Vote Green |
Thereby greenwashing the conscience, without having to actually lift a finger. As I said, it's a religion, and voting or waving a banner is penance.
Any ecomental who truly bought into the "science" would kill themselves and as many other people as possible. At a minimum, they'd get on a sailing ship to Africa and enjoy a low-resource lifestyle, until they were rapemurdered or died of EbolAIDS (or both, not necessarily in that order).
Still, I am also keen to hear what we, the little people, can actually do in order to prevent the coming heat-freeze-drought-flood.
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| Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | OK, let me try to respond again, hopefully in a way which can't simply be dismissed by categorisation. Aside from reportage I'd like to know what the activists think we can practically do about climate change. How can societies bring about the required massive changes to the global economy when those economies are currently dependant on fossil fuels, there are no alternatives with the potential to take over, and possibly not enough time left anyway. Vote Green, I guess.
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Hmm, well.
You're very right, so far as I can see it. I am trying to be optimistic, but I am close to throwing my toys in the sandpit, leaving you all to Malthus and going to get my feet firmly under the table at my mates farm in Australia.
The land of guns, wide open spaces and a moat of Great White Sharks (and giant crocodiles!).
The problem is, everyone just expects technology to save us.
Never actually countering the underlying issues.
I just got to Eco-nazi Germany with their pfucking pfand system (deposits on plastic/glass/ali bottles) of .25c on most bottles and huge drive for recycling.
And by god can they waste paper. "We recycle heavily, so of course we can consume as much as we want."
And the low birth rate is such a shame... it needs fixing.
I think I will take this masters and fuck off to my mates farm in Australia. Malthus can pick your European bones clean while I watch from a distance.
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The problem is, everyone just expects technology to save us. |
Yup, Stephen Hawking tells me we can all just fuck off to another planet, as soon as your generation gets off it's arse and figures out how we get there
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Mmm, we're always seeking the next end of the world, and the wizards who can save the chosen few from it.
| Sun Wukong wrote: | The problem is, everyone just expects technology to save us. |
Sure, I put my blind faith in real science, since it's done a pretty good job so far.
| Sun Wukong wrote: | I think I will take this masters and fuck off to my mates farm in Australia. |
You'd feel no obligation to pay either back or forward the largess of first world privilege and resource consumption that you've enjoyed?
What would you contribute on a farm? Either there, or to the world?
If you don't care about producing more than you consume or helping others, to whom will you turn when you get sick and old?
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| Rogerborg wrote: | to whom will you turn when you get sick and old? |
That one's easy. Death.
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