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mpd72 wrote: | Really? Doesn't seem to stop them announcing it was Islamic Terror almost immediately, when there are far too many witnesses to dress it up as #NTDWI.
Manchester, London Bridge, Lee Rigby, Westminster.....
It's becoming quite clear that the authorities of many countries are now too scared to admit the Muslim issue. Sweden has gone as far as banning any mention or recording of race/religion linked to any crime.
And this ladies and gents, is why were on a losing battle with Islam. We refuse to admit or identify the problem. |
Manchester - Recap 4 days after event and official police statement in the aftermath. Note that there is no mention of Islam from the Police anywhere.
London Bridge - Police updates on attack. Again, not they don't mention Islam
Lee Rigby- Police statement - see 7.29 post. No Islam.
Westminster - Police statement on attacks. No mention of Islam? Why it's almost like a pattern is emerging.
Notice how in none of the cases you listed the authorities actually call them Islamic terrorists? Because (for the last time) that is not how it is done.
Also for the last time, there is no unwillingness to call Islamic extremism out when it has been confirmed.
I see no evidence that the authorities are afraid to call Islamic terrorism, just that, unlike you, they don't think that every terrorist attack must be an Islamic extremist van guard of the kaliphate ____________________ I tell you what, mathematically, I'm having it |
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Posted: 17:25 - 14 Nov 2017 Post subject: |
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Apart from this sizeable clue in the newspaper article you linked....
Quote: | the Islamic State group that claimed responsibility for the Manchester Arena attack on Monday. |
1/10, must try harder.
Either way, what point are you trying to make? I'm saying that authorities will try to dress down any attack carried out by Muslims, if they can get away with it, as if there was no connection.
Clearly in the ones I mentioned, whether the Po-Po mention the I word or not, the public are fully aware they were Islamist attacks and the press made no secret of it.
The Toulouse attack is a clear case of hiding the Muslim angle, even from the press. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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mpd72 wrote: |
Apart from this sizeable clue in the newspaper article you linked....
Quote: | the Islamic State group that claimed responsibility for the Manchester Arena attack on Monday. |
1/10, must try harder. |
So... mpd72 wrote: | Breibart are not the authorities, neither are the Guardian. |
but apparently you consider Islamic state to be part of the authorities? Why would you listen to ISIS but disregard newspapers and websites?
Are you changing your argument? You claimed that the authorities will only identify Islamic terrorist attacks as such "when there are far too many witnesses to dress it up as #NTDWI.", are you now saying this is not the case?
mpd72 wrote: | Either way, what point are you trying to make? I'm saying that authorities will try to dress down any attack carried out by Muslims, if they can get away with it, as if there was no connection.
Clearly in the ones I mentioned, whether the Po-Po mention the I word or not, the public are fully aware they were Islamist attacks and the press made no secret of it. |
The point I am making is that your claim about the authorities hiding information about Islamic extremist attacks is patently false and in direct violation of correct procedure for conducting an investigation.
It is hardly surprising the public know about the motives of attackers because both politicians and the media are free to speculate. The authorities are not...hence why they don't.
mpd72 wrote: | The Toulouse attack is a clear case of hiding the Muslim angle, even from the press. |
No, it really isn't. The police aren't releasing information...as usual. Once he has been charged (and his name/photo) is out, people will start doing some background digging and the speculation as to his motive can begin.
mpd72 wrote: | What agenda of mine were you referring to then? The sarcasm was obviously lost in transit.
Usually, your type throws a race card at the first sniff of someone not reading the Guardian.
That's why I used the Indie and Guardian to make my point. So it was in a style you'd be used to. |
I wasn't referring to any agenda. You appear to have me confused with Fizzoid.
My only point was that Nazi ideology isn't relevant. I suspect what you actually meant was Fascist, but I suppose it doesn't have the baggage of Nazi. Unfortunately in the pursuit of a zingy one liner you holed your entire joke below the water line by using an entirely nonsensical comparison. Now it just reads as confused. ____________________ I tell you what, mathematically, I'm having it |
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Falco wrote: | mpd72 wrote: |
Either way, what point are you trying to make? I'm saying that authorities will try to dress down any attack carried out by Muslims, if they can get away with it, as if there was no connection.
Clearly in the ones I mentioned, whether the Po-Po mention the I word or not, the public are fully aware they were Islamist attacks and the press made no secret of it. |
The point I am making is that your claim about the authorities hiding information about Islamic extremist attacks is patently false and in direct violation of correct procedure for conducting an investigation.
It is hardly surprising the public know about the motives of attackers because both politicians and the media are free to speculate. The authorities are not...hence why they don't.
mpd72 wrote: | The Toulouse attack is a clear case of hiding the Muslim angle, even from the press. |
No, it really isn't. The police aren't releasing information...as usual. Once he has been charged (and his name/photo) is out, people will start doing some background digging and the speculation as to his motive can begin.
mpd72 wrote: | What agenda of mine were you referring to then? The sarcasm was obviously lost in transit.
Usually, your type throws a race card at the first sniff of someone not reading the Guardian.
That's why I used the Indie and Guardian to make my point. So it was in a style you'd be used to. |
I wasn't referring to any agenda. You appear to have me confused with Fizzoid.
My only point was that Nazi ideology isn't relevant. I suspect what you actually meant was Fascist, but I suppose it doesn't have the baggage of Nazi. Unfortunately in the pursuit of a zingy one liner you holed your entire joke below the water line by using an entirely nonsensical comparison. Now it just reads as confused. |
No, you’re not getting it at all.
When accused of finding news sources to suit my assumed right wing agenda, a couple of posts later I deliberately used left wing paper links to prove my “agenda”.
The Nazi comment was sarcasm showing that even the liberal left admit to the issue with the Liberal Swedes hiding Muslim nastiness. The idea being those papers are the polar opposite.
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mpd72 wrote: | Falco wrote: | Was that sarcasm? It's not difficult to see what you were trying do with the Nazi analogy....but it's just so factually wrong it doesn't make any sense. |
Welcome to sarcasm.
You still don't get it do you? It was nothing to do with Islam.
I deliberately used liberal left wing publications to highlight a story, which if published by anyone else, you'd see as right wing.
Calling the Guardian or Indie out for having a Nazi agenda was the sarcasm. I really didn't think anyone over the age of puberty would struggle to see it. |
For someone who accuses others of not reading posts you seem to be failing to read my posts pretty comprehensively. I understand what you were attempting to do, my point is that Nazism is totally tangential to your point. I understand why you used left wing papers to make your point, but then calling them Nazis is just....it's shit. It's a supremely poor attempt at sarcasm, just like calling BLM members the klu klux klan would be a crap attempt at humour (again, because it doesn't make sense - it just confuses the punchline).
I don't know why you think I have some issue with your sources. I've used the telegraph, the times as well as the guardian and independent as sources. As long as it's not coming from some seriously dodgy source (lookin at you Brietbart) I don't give a shit where you get your information. Facts are facts.
You appear to be seriously struggling to tell that there are different people involved in this conversation, it would save time all round if didn't respond to me with things other people said.
It's a bit rich though, to talk about puberty when you seem incapable of getting through a single post without trying to insult me ____________________ I tell you what, mathematically, I'm having it |
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Falco wrote: | mpd72 wrote: |
Welcome to sarcasm.
You still don't get it do you? It was nothing to do with Islam.
I deliberately used liberal left wing publications to highlight a story, which if published by anyone else, you'd see as right wing.
Calling the Guardian or Indie out for having a Nazi agenda was the sarcasm. I really didn't think anyone over the age of puberty would struggle to see it. |
For someone who accuses others of not reading posts you seem to be failing to read my posts pretty comprehensively. I understand what you were attempting to do, my point is that Nazism is totally tangential to your point. I understand why you used left wing papers to make your point, but then calling them Nazis is just....it's shit. It's a supremely poor attempt at sarcasm, just like calling BLM members the klu klux klan would be a crap attempt at humour (again, because it doesn't make sense - it just confuses the punchline).
I don't know why you think I have some issue with your sources. I've used the telegraph, the times as well as the guardian and independent as sources. As long as it's not coming from some seriously dodgy source (lookin at you Brietbart) I don't give a shit where you get your information. Facts are facts.
You appear to be seriously struggling to tell that there are different people involved in this conversation, it would save time all round if didn't respond to me with things other people said.
It's a bit rich though, to talk about puberty when you seem incapable of getting through a single post without trying to insult me |
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2 days of Muslims rioting in Brussels now and little coverage on the UK pro EU media.
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/rapper-video-shoot-sparks-fresh-riots-in-brussels
Day 1 was apparently “football fans”. Yep, Moroccan Muslims. Tonight it’s over a Muslim rapper shooting a video apparently. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Vargass92 (the rapper) describes himself as non-religious which makes him about as Muslim as you are Christian. ____________________ Make mine a Corona. |
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Can you please point out the Muslim reference in that story please, I can't seem to find it myself ____________________ Current Bike: Honda CG125 ES4 // Honda CB600FS Hornet // Triumph Street Triple R |
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Sure, just Yoofs. Anyway, it's not their fault - ask the Granny Grabber in Chief, Macron.
French snackbar is entirely the fault of the French State.
The actual snackbarists have no agency: they're essentially just animals that need to be handled better. In the absence of absolute cradle to grave nurturing by Nounou State, their infantile urges are satiated by turning to religion.
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Can you please point out the Muslim reference in that story please, I can't seem to find it myself |
There's a surprise...... I'm making a point about, once again, the press covering up the Muslim issue. "Football fans" over the weekend, were Moroccan Muslim yoof. It's any excuse to kick off over there.
I know someone currently in Brussels. These riots over the last couple of nights have been carried out entirely by Muslim yoof. It's a fairly common occurrence lately. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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rpsmith79 wrote: | mpd72 wrote: | There's a surprise...... I'm making a point about, once again, the press covering up the Muslim issue. "Football fans" over the weekend, were Moroccan Muslim yoof. It's any excuse to kick off over there.
I know someone currently in Brussels. These riots over the last couple of nights have been carried out entirely by Muslim yoof. It's a fairly common occurrence lately. |
Well unless the press has surveyed each and every rioter, how can they (or anyone else for that matter) determine their religious beliefs
Or are you (sorry i mean your friend in Brussels) basing this entirely on the colour of their skin |
Denial....
Have a look at some of the Youtube videos and make your own mind up eh? It's regular over there even if the EUrophile UK press generally ignore it.
Are you proposing Moroccans are not Muslim too?
Quote: | The scuffles started in the late afternoon after the arrival of a young French social media star. Some youths smashed windows of shops and cars alike while pelting police officers.
On Saturday night in the wake of Morocco's qualification for the World Cup, rioters tore up one street in central Brussels and injured 22 officers.
Jambon said the violence fits a pattern and "needs to be countered with tough measures." |
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rpsmith79 wrote: | mpd72 wrote: | Are you proposing Moroccans are not Muslim too? |
To be fair, i don't know any Moroccans, so i can't ask them
But even if Moroccans are predominantly Muslim, does that mean then any crime involving a Moroccan should be labeled as a "Muslamic" incident
But by that same thought, are you saying all Brits are Catholic then? |
Have you even bothered looking for Muslim yoof riot news in Brussels?
It's quite regular.
There was quite a serious one in 2006 and it;s never really stopped since then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Brussels_riots
Quote: | Between 23 and 29 September 2006, youths of mainly immigrant descent rioted in Brussels, causing the destruction of several shop windows and the burning of ten cars and part of a hospital. The immediate cause of the riots was anger at the unexplained death in custody of a local man of Moroccan origin, Fayçal Chaaban. |
This came a year after "The Rammadam Riots" - Wonder why they got that name? #NTDWI of course...
https://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1381
Lovely Brussels citizens supporting Paris attacker...
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/653818/Molenbeek-terror-raid-Paris-attacks-Salah-Abdeslam-Belgium-riot-police
Quote: | Riot police were called in to disperse the crowds who gathered in the Brussels suburb after missiles were thrown at the Belgian authorities.
Tensions were sparked after young people from the troubled area started declaring their support for their “hero” Abdeslam, according to a witness.
An eyewitness posted on Twitter: “Great tension in Molenbeek with young people from the area praising their ‘hero’ Salah Abdeslam." |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 169 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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