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Jewlio Rides Again LLB
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 08 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'm all for legal tax avoidance.
People even married to pay less tax. The Scum.


HAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, and chances are the cost of the wedding outweighs the tax breaks for the rest of your life too. Laughing
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 09 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
Pjay wrote:
I'm all for legal tax avoidance.
People even married to pay less tax. The Scum.


HAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, and chances are the cost of the wedding outweighs the tax breaks for the rest of your life too. Laughing

Registry office then McDonalds.
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I think I will get marrieddd in Pakistan.

Groom has to clear a whole clip on an AK47… one handed Laughing

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PostPosted: 08:48 - 09 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sun Wukong wrote:
marrieddd in Pakistan.

Typo of marriedead? Some risk of JDAM fireworks.
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 09 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
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It's common on here for people (not talking about Jon) to go on about benefit scum, then gloss over the benefits they receive (such as child benefit)


It's also common on here for the red commie gimmedats Wink to forget that there's a difference between someone receiving benefits whilst paying into the system which benefits others, and those who only operate on one side of that equation, and effectively make that their profession.
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 09 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:
marrieddd in Pakistan.

Typo of marriedead? Some risk of JDAM fireworks.


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PostPosted: 18:01 - 09 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
arry wrote:


It's also common on here for the red commie gimmedats Wink to forget that there's a difference between someone receiving benefits whilst paying into the system which benefits others, and those who only operate on one side of that equation, and effectively make that their profession.


"the system" doesn't actually need people to be productive in it anymore anyway. Our unemployed l/under-employed/unemployable are simply futurists, early adopters if you like. Perfectly fulfilling the role of pure consumers of the crap an increasingly sparse number of people engage in producing and delivering.

So stop whingeing. Soon enough you will be moved into the pure consumer role and your "job" turned over to an automated system. So cheer up.
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 09 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
M.C wrote:
Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, and chances are the cost of the wedding outweighs the tax breaks for the rest of your life too. Laughing

Registry office then McDonalds.


Still 3 years before you would see any benefit.
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PostPosted: 00:32 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
arry wrote:
M.C wrote:
It's common on here for people (not talking about Jon) to go on about benefit scum, then gloss over the benefits they receive (such as child benefit)


It's also common on here for the red commie gimmedats Wink to forget that there's a difference between someone receiving benefits whilst paying into the system which benefits others, and those who only operate on one side of that equation, and effectively make that their profession.

I don't claim (nor am I entitled to) any benefits, why do I get treated like a sponger then?
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PostPosted: 01:27 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
M.C wrote:
arry wrote:

It's also common on here for the red commie gimmedats Wink to forget that there's a difference between someone receiving benefits whilst paying into the system which benefits others, and those who only operate on one side of that equation, and effectively make that their profession.

I don't claim (nor am I entitled to) any benefits, why do I get treated like a sponger then?


When bnp72 publishes his own tax returns where he declares them honestly, you can complain. Until then, don't worry about a fucking thing.
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
mpd72 wrote:
M.C wrote:

I don't claim (nor am I entitled to) any benefits, why do I get treated like a sponger then?


You live in a state sponsored house at well under market value don't you? How is that not a benefit?


You declare everything do you?

Bullshit troll is bullshit.
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
You declare everything do you?

Taxation is theft.

Benefits are paid for by theft.

It's the moral equivalency argument that Hitler would have made.
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:

Taxation is theft. Benefits are paid for by theft.


Nah more like taxation are indirect overheads of doing business and making money.
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Itchy wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
Taxation is theft. Benefits are paid for by theft.

Nah more like taxation are indirect overheads of doing business and making money.

Sure, just like paying the mob for 'protection'. No point arguing about it, it's just the way things are done.
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
mpd72 wrote:
M.C wrote:

I don't claim (nor am I entitled to) any benefits, why do I get treated like a sponger then?


You live in a state sponsored house at well under market value don't you? How is that not a benefit?

Because landlords can charge whatever they want, or is the person I know paying (the same landlord) a lot less than the tenant below them being subsidised as well?
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Jewlio Rides Again LLB
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
You declare everything do you?

Taxation is theft.

Benefits are paid for by theft.

It's the moral equivalency argument that Hitler would have made.


Taxation is a necessary evil. If you don't like paying it, don't use the tax funded services. Pay privately.
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We had an interesting moment in economics class today.

Won't bore you with sophomoric repetition of new content, however;

If you tax goods, you lose some of the market efficiency (deadweight loss, if you're bored and want to look at some fancy graphs with triangles)

Turns out, the amount lost from the net economy is much lower if you tax stuff people desperately need, and not luxury items.

Therefore, in government policy decisions, it is better to tax bread than yachts (wouldn't want to put the yacht producers out of work, essentially).

Thinking about tax (and economics) makes me sad, because literally every ideologically designed idea will fail or lead to suffering.

I miss being able to join in the bleating about taxing the hell out of the rich, without any knowledge of why it would back fire.

Or believing Corbyn's socialist plan of slowly dismantling our economy by lots of incredibly reasonable things.

But yes, tax is theft and avoiding it is a damn good hobby Thumbs Up

Unfortunately, when everyone does it, we will have anarchy.

So, treat it like a game... and rich people can hire much better coaches/trainers.

That is my final take on it, anyway.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
Taxation is a necessary evil.

It's only necessary because the biggest mob in town makes it so. It's not actually a law of nature.


Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
If you don't like paying it, don't use the tax funded services. Pay privately.

I have private health cover. Where do I claim my refund on what goes to the NHS?

I don't want to pay into the pension Ponzi scheme, or for cockholsters, migrants, mongs and other assorted oxygen thieves.

Is there a form I can fill in for that?
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
Taxation is a necessary evil.

It's only necessary because the biggest mob in town makes it so. It's not actually a law of nature.


Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
If you don't like paying it, don't use the tax funded services. Pay privately.

I have private health cover. Where do I claim my refund on what goes to the NHS?

I don't want to pay into the pension Ponzi scheme, or for cockholsters, migrants, mongs and other assorted oxygen thieves.

Is there a form I can fill in for that?


Bin emptying? Police (snigger)? Fire brigade? Ambylance? Emergency care? (I know they're not necessarily income tax funded, but you only pay them when you're working, so...
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sun Wukong wrote:
We had an interesting moment in economics class today.

Won't bore you with sophomoric repetition of new content, however;

If you tax goods, you lose some of the market efficiency (deadweight loss, if you're bored and want to look at some fancy graphs with triangles)

Turns out, the amount lost from the net economy is much lower if you tax stuff people desperately need, and not luxury items.

Therefore, in government policy decisions, it is better to tax bread than yachts (wouldn't want to put the yacht producers out of work, essentially).

Thinking about tax (and economics) makes me sad, because literally every ideologically designed idea will fail or lead to suffering.

Regressive taxes, inelastic demand


This is high school level economics
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:

I have private health cover. Where do I claim my refund on what goes to the NHS?



Without the NHS many doctors would not be able to moonlight for BUPA. So the general tax you pay is the minimum. The BUPA cover is the premium above the minimum.


Rogerborg wrote:
I don't want to pay into whatever



I dunno. How defensible is your home? If enough people don't pay semi-voluntarily or not well then it stops being semi-voluntary and people take.
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Regressive taxes, inelastic demand -

This is high school level economics


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