Human rights.... rant

[Rogerborg]

[angryjonny]

Now now, I'm just surfing this application of Godwin's law, not instigating it.

Inconvenient as it may be, human rights apply to all humans, regardless of what they've done or not done. The minute someone decides to apply them selectively they may as well not exist at all.

The problem (and potentially the trap OP's very temporary employer has fallen into) is erroneous extension of the concept of "human rights" to include things certain people think it might be nice to include. "Free stuff" is not a human right, nor is "not being offended".

[Rogerborg]

[angryjonny]

[andym]

I figured it was time for an update on this.... as most of you have pointed out, yes I should feel guilty about drawing the same air as everyone else.... lowest of the low... scum of the earth.... employer is better off without me etc etc.

Almost 6 weeks after being escorted off site I've still not had any work, I've contacted HR about the situation and they just LOL'ed.

I've spoken to my line manager, (and in an effort to be able to pay my rent and other essential bills I asked for some holiday days to be moved from December to November, this was agreed via email and then by letter... but was cancelled 3 days before the money was due to go in the bank.... as they thought I was going to do a runner with their uniform), who contacted me saying "there is no work anywhere in Scotland"

All this because I refused to fill out a glorified survey on easygenerator.com






As for the course, this is some of the questions:

What do you expect from this course?


Let's define human rights (drag the item on the right column to match the answer on the left):
Human rights

Things to which you are entitled or allowed; freedoms that are guaranteed

Human

A member of the homo sapiens species. A man, woman or child; a person

Rights

The rights you have simply because you are human

Do you know your human rights?

We are all free and equal, don't discriminate, no slavery past and present, the right to life, no torture, marriage and family, we all have the same right to use the law, nobody can take away these rights and freedoms from us, we are all protected by the law, no unfair detainment, fair treatment by fair courts, free to say what you want, the right to democracy, innocent until proven guilty, the right to asylum, the right to trial, workers rights, the right to play, the right to a nationality, meet where you like, a bed and some food, freedom to move, the right to privacy, the right to social security, culture and copyright, a free and fair world, your own things, freedom of thought, the right to education, own responsibilities. Oh can't forget the link to human rights on wikipedia

[grr666]

One of the many advantages of being self employed is that I don't have to do any of this touchy feely crap,
and I can't be fired for my views either. (Good job really ). My advice? Reject the entire system from
space, it's the only way to be sure. Working for/with other people is just shite, I won't do it again unless it's me
paying the wages, in which case I'll be working with people I've personally chosen.
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[Sun Wukong]

Once you spend a very brief stint in management (or longer, but a brief one is all that is required), you begin to see how these stupid things appear... and how little anyone at any layer enjoys them.

And then you start to see just how irritating someone who can't bite their lip and push through the bullshit will be.

You're not lowest of the low, nor are you wrong in your opinions.

But you held up a huge great big yellow flag for "Future HR PITA", and as such risked/ruined your personal finances in the short term... plus it sounds like you have limited agency support now.

Remember the amount of bullshit caused to yourself, and see if it was really worth the effort to stick to fingers up to the contemptible bullshit.

Pick your battles, work out what is at stake, and either keep your guns holstered and play nice, or shoot to kill... so to speak.
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[Itchy]

Self employment is merely an exchange of one boss for many smaller bosses.

While you can sort of choose who you want to work for it's still working for somebody else and therefore accepting their terms and conditions.
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[Hetzer]

'Rights' are an entirely abstract concept, they are not found in nature.
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