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Matt B
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 09 Nov 2017    Post subject: Re: What garage back up bike Reply with quote

TheSmiler wrote:
If you had to have a bike in the garage as a back up what would you have.


Well if I were you I would just ignore all the suggestions and buy something pig ugly like a K100... Wink
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 09 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a GPZ500.

Cheap tax, cheap insurance, good economy and owes me bugger all just sitting there. Always works and not too bad to ride.

Unless you're minted, the first answer is a cheap reliable one, and that tends to mean something local and well cared for, as opposed to a specific model.
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 09 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

gpz500 is great as a spare bike, but if you don't already have one i wouldnt go out and get one.

If you have to buy something, buy something fancy. That way it is still good to look at whilst it sits there for months on end.
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 09 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

GPZ500 would be a decent shout if you can still find one that doesn't need anything done to it. Since even the youngest ones out there are now too old to interest Robby, you might have to go on a bit of a quest.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 09 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not suggesting it has to be a GPZ, my point is my 'spare' bike is an elderly steel framed commuter twin, which owes me very little, but is reliable.

Those are the criteria I'd be looking for
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 09 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howling Terror wrote:
^^^No wind protection...although I did notice they did have a headlight fairing as an accessory in an 80s catalog ..but rare as hens teeth to find.

So it's an ; Ooo vintage bike with no wind protection, my choice is winning

https://www.sportbikes.net/reviewpost/data/25/12008_Suzuki_SV650SF_ABS-large.jpg <<Obvs my virtual SV wouldn't be as new as that.


It's not a competition.



I'm changing mine to a Dullsville, it has a shaft. HAH! Smile
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 09 Nov 2017    Post subject: Re: What garage back up bike Reply with quote

A bit boring; but the same bike as your main bike?

That way if you need anything either way, you could swap bits around.

When I was racing in minitwins I had two race SV650s (one of which ended up being a 'parts' bike) and stock one for commuting.

Meant if had any issues; I could easily flip parts around from one bike to another - and I could just stick the old tyres wheels straight on the commuter bike without needing to change the tyres on the wheels.
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 09 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
I'm changing mine to a Dullsville, it has a shaft. HAH! Smile
That is a good point.

I also change my choice to a Honda Deauville. I've ridden one and it was functional.
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 09 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx1138 wrote:
XR250



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No electric start, no battery, can be dropped daily or not started for months and you know it will want for nothing the next time you try and use it.

Done 2k miles on mine in 10 months and its cost me about 50p



........400cc would be nicer though Smile
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PostPosted: 04:20 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

MZ 250, I known them to sit for ages and all that was needed to get them back to life was some fresh fuel and a charged battery.
Easy to work on.
Plenty spares, .
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PostPosted: 10:19 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
I pay £100 a year old duffer insurance. It would cost me at least as much again to insure a second bike. plus the tax, plus the MOT.. that's around £250 a year straight off the top.

To have a 'back up' that, odds on, wont start when needed 'cos it ha a flat battery, or crapped up carb(s) or or or whatever else has seized, rusted, or rotted since last used.

Add the cash not spent on 'redundant' back-up, and stick it into good, useful upfront preventative maintenance so you shouldn't NEED a 'back up', far more likely it'll be there when you need it.


As someone who bought a backup bike I've got to agree it becomes kind of annoying maintaining two machines and paying for them both I mean I guess if you have a garage you can pay tax etc when you need to use it but still.

My choice would be a dead simple YBR 125 or Honda equivalent ideally and 09 or older model due to kickstart
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't have a backup bike, I'd just choose another bike I like. Being that I currently have four, there's always at least 1 working.
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
Well it does kinda depend on what your local/daily commute looks like and the distances and type of roads you travel on.

But say it's local town/city stuff, then I'm going to say a simple carb fed, air cooled bike, single or twin, probably naked and basic with non linkage rear suspension, easy to maintain and ideally something kick-start, so a flat battery won't ruin your day.


Hardly many of them about though in good condition. I've brought this up as I've got 3 bikes of current one is waiting for the V5 (srad600) so I'm not touching that. Plan on selling it or swapping it.

The other two were both of the road last week for different things that failed shaft seal on one and the alternator on the other. Same bike but the parts werent interchangeable without some serious work.

But at the moment I'm saving money regarding getting a car which is all being planned for next year. Although at the moment it's looking likey to be and old beetle as the insurance is peanuts.

Current commute is 10 miles inner city, max speed is 50mph. Walking it would be 2.5hrs so not really worth it and public transport is a liability at best.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your generally looking after your main bike, and it doesn't have any serious issues, then I see the back up bike as only possibly needed for when your doing planned major maintenance, or waiting for parts to arrive, or if your taking the bike off the road to do work on it.

If the back up bike comes out just a few times a year, and with your commute, you could even chance a £500 or less Chinese 125 scooter, as your not going to be packing the miles on it, and if it's really cheap you won't mind if it breaks, gets smashed up or stolen.

Having something you really don't care about too much or would never choose as an only bike, can be good. As it means your more motivated to keep the proper bike on the road, and use it more often. You could have a mint CB500 or GPZ etc, but you might not bother sorting jobs out on your other bike if riding the back up bike was almost as good or capable.
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 12 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or, halve your insurance and tax costs - buy another bike the same as your main bike and use one set of number plates.
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 12 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
CB250RS. After moving on to other bikes, it sat at the back of the garage for yonks, but didn't need much to coax back into life when I needed it.


Perfect...

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Or, halve your insurance and tax costs - buy another bike the same as your main bike and use one set of number plates.


And I know one person who did this.... Shocked
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 12 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back up bike can be:

*Similar to what you got
*Change from what you got
* More appropriate than what you got
* Combination of above

I've had a Harley and a sports bike....maybe too different. I've had an older version ...maybe felt inferior on the earlier model. Had bling for nice days and easy cleaner for wet weather. At the moment I've got a 'posh' sports model with big cc and a 250 for town/wet riding. Having identical bikes can cause mental conflict. Too different can mean you get to hate one. There are no rules except that the more 'pairs of bikes' you have, the better you get at a good mix. What is nice, is when one is off the road the other steps in. 2 bikes is a minimum for me.
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 12 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

its horses for courses ...
i don`t keep a bike as a back-up ..
more so depends where goin
or what i`m doin ..

try ridin a naked on the autobahn...
or a sports tourer on a gelato pleb. out

race reps are just a pain in the upper back under 60mph .. whatever road it is.. but on the A68 they are somethin else ....

i`m up to three IL4s now ..
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had a go on a honda crf250 thinkin it would be a good reserve bike ... i`d fcukin kill myself ... he wouldn`t get on me R1 either Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 12 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Copycat73 wrote:

race reps are just a pain in the upper back under 60mph ..

Heavy helmet?

Only time I've had problems - though generally the ones I've ridden regularly have been relatively less extreme riding positions.
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 12 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Copycat73 wrote:

race reps are just a pain in the upper back under 60mph ..

Heavy helmet?

Only time I've had problems - though generally the ones I've ridden regularly have been relatively less extreme riding positions.


The exup was slowly crippling me but there again I'm old.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 12 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:


The exup was slowly crippling me but there again I'm old.


I found my exup crippled me very quickly, when I was quite young Laughing
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PostPosted: 06:40 - 13 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Copycat73 wrote:


race reps are just a pain in the upper back under 60mph ..

Some bikers do not understand clip on bars, arse-up riding. Grip the tank with your knees, hold the bars lightly with your arms slightly bent. You can filter slowly for ages on a race rep in comfort if you sit on it properly. Agreed upright bikes are more suited to lower speeds, but if you love the sports bike concept like many do, it's worth learning to master slow as well as fast riding.
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 13 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just buy a single bike made in the last 5 years and you won’t need an array of spares. Forcing 20 year old pos bikes to be a daily commuter is always going to be a pain in the arse.
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 13 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a '97 CB500 with 40k on it, in immaculate cosmetic condition, and needing absolutely fuck all in the way of consumables, mechanical attention or indeed anything else you could think of. I'd want £1250 for it, cash. With regular oil, and oily rag TLC on a semi-regular basis, it'd last another 20 years doing 3k per year. Afaict, at that price, it'd be less than half what you'd be paying for almost anything of comparable size and power made in the last five years.
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