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Posted: 22:39 - 08 Nov 2017 Post subject: First fall... |
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Decided today it I only ride in warm weather on perfect days I'll never master it. Wrapped up warm this morning, headed off on the 20 mile commute on my little 125...
As a new rider I havent done much filtering or overtaking, but faced with a queue for a roundabout, I slipped past all. Sadly at the front of the queue, dazzled by low sun on a slightly hazy sun visor, couldnt quite see where edge of central reservation met road, lots of wet leaves... scrape, slid, wobbled and fell in front of queue I had just overtaken.... Embarrassed scraped up bike and shot off.
Damage? Thankfully only a scraped exhaust on bike, but my foot went under and hurts like buggery - been limping all day. Cant tell missus or she'll be furious / worried whenever I ride. Might have to sneak off to see doc if still hurts like this tomorrow though in case something small broken...
Not sure if this is a lesson many newbies have, or if I am a dangerous numpty that should stay away from bikes.... but thought I'd share my pain... |
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Posted: 23:06 - 08 Nov 2017 Post subject: |
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All part of a learning curve. Hopefully your foot is just bruised, much like your ego probably was! ____________________ '07 Honda CBF500 / '93 Vauxhall Astra (www.fb.com/2wdOffRoader) / '04 Vauxhall Movano
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Posted: 23:12 - 08 Nov 2017 Post subject: |
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Gangrene by the weekend, chap.
In the unlikely event that you live, you'll have learned something, and life's only over when that process ends. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Leafs are demons: I put my foot down at a dead stop to park up and my foot slipped out on one, cue brown trouser moment.
Probably worth taking it easy on the filtering if you're only just starting out. It's far too easy to think, "I should filter because i'm on a bike" but the truth is, in my opinion, it's near pointless in anywhere outside of London: it saves, perhaps, a minuate or two on the commute.. risk for no reward. Not against it, mind. Whatever you're comfortable with, suppose.
Probably check what tyre's you've got and see how they review for cold weather and wet road use since the weathers only going to worse hereon for a few months. You can have all the want in the world to ride in adverse weather but if you're sliding around all over then there's no point getting it out of storage.
125 cc's are tricky buggers: they're ideal tools (low power) for adverse weather but that also allows for rides to occur in weather than otherwise would probably be advisable to sod it off and find alternative transport. Get out and about, once the foot is sorted, and just ride. You'll find your comfort factor fairly quickly and learn on what days to and not ride: there's no gold star for forcing yourself out on the bike if it doesn't feel right -- probably end up in a worse ride for doing so.
+1 on the sun being an arse, though: I ended up riding like a donkey because low head on sun, thankfully didn't last too long. ____________________ The do it all, T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶k̶e̶n̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶,̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶i̶g̶ ̶l̶u̶m̶p̶,̶ ̶C̶h̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶N̶o̶o̶d̶l̶e̶ |
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NJD wrote: | ...
Probably worth taking it easy on the filtering if you're only just starting out. It's far too easy to think, "I should filter because i'm on a bike" but the truth is, in my opinion, it's near pointless in anywhere outside of London: it saves, perhaps, a minuate or two on the commute.. risk for no reward. Not against it, mind. Whatever you're comfortable with, suppose...
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What he said, since I started filtering to work I have only managed to get 1 red light/B road ahead of other cars realistically.
I guess argument could be made for a more positive state of mind on reaching your destination? (If you don't potato)
I am up Norf though, and OPs profile says Salisbury, which may as well be Lahhndan. (it's south of Birmingham and east of Wales, so meets all of my requirements. ____________________ The above post is most likely nonsensical.
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Posted: 07:35 - 09 Nov 2017 Post subject: |
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I don't live in London, but I do live in a town. In evening rush hour I can save half an hour by filtering, I don't see the point of having a bike and not filtering in that scenario.
It all depends on the OPs situation, but personally I'd avoid sitting at the back of a queue of traffic with a low sun ahead, as that's a very dangerous place to be... ____________________ '07 Honda CBF500 / '93 Vauxhall Astra (www.fb.com/2wdOffRoader) / '04 Vauxhall Movano
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I tend to have a tinted visor, or carry a roll of black insulating tape to deal with low sun
Keeping the visor clear on dryish days with road spray is a nightmare, so in the conditions you describe I'd probably have flicked it open.
In terms of filtering, keep in your head risk vs reward. It's great getting all the way to the front and blasting off, but at the end of the day, the vast majority of the risk comes in the last 2-3 cars (islands, pedestrians crossing, lights changing and the queue moving off and a million other things). A lot of the time I'll filter almost the whole queue and then stop a couple of cars back in a nice gap, especially if the available space narrows for an island etc.
In answer to your question though, yes everyone has 'moments' and learns from them, some more painful than others. As long as you're asking self reflective questions the way you are, then you're not a dangerous numpty IMHO, you're just learning.
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It's all research. Now you've measured the performance of your foot safety wear, you can adjust accordingly ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
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Posted: 01:37 - 10 Nov 2017 Post subject: Re: First fall... |
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SkaDad wrote: | Decided today it I only ride in warm weather on perfect days I'll never master it. Wrapped up warm this morning, headed off on the 20 mile commute on my little 125...
As a new rider I havent done much filtering or overtaking, but faced with a queue for a roundabout, I slipped past all. Sadly at the front of the queue, dazzled by low sun on a slightly hazy sun visor, couldnt quite see where edge of central reservation met road, lots of wet leaves... scrape, slid, wobbled and fell in front of queue I had just overtaken.... Embarrassed scraped up bike and shot off.
Damage? Thankfully only a scraped exhaust on bike, but my foot went under and hurts like buggery - been limping all day. Cant tell missus or she'll be furious / worried whenever I ride. Might have to sneak off to see doc if still hurts like this tomorrow though in case something small broken...
Not sure if this is a lesson many newbies have, or if I am a dangerous numpty that should stay away from bikes.... but thought I'd share my pain... |
I never managed to drop a bike but had a similar situation on the first day of riding on my own after passing the CBT. I tried to do a U-turn on a slight slope and misjudged balancing skills.... had to do a split to save the bike from dropping. Luckily my 125 is only 140kg and I did not hurt myself, cause when I touched the ground my foot slipped away at first, even if speed was around 2-3mph.
Module 1 exam was the last time I tried a U-turn after this situation, and after situation forces me to do it, I'm not planning one again on a tight road.
Good luck with your foot and mrs ____________________
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 169 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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